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Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by LoneWolf »

arethuza wrote: post #7
spdy wrote: post #2

Am i the only one who does not like "touch" on a desktop/laptop. It is not the revolutionary input method that makes everything magical. I want to think in boxes (desktops) not a fluid streams of desktop space. We need something else for the desktop.

It is even less appropriate on a server OS - I have no idea what they were thinking making Windows Server 2012 use the same touch oriented start menu replacement nightmare.... [Having to use a demo VM that has 2012 installed at the moment and I'm finding it incredibly annoying].

Now imagine having to manage servers everyday with that interface (yep I have to do it)

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by aw3c2 »

jzzskijj wrote: post #3

"Manual window management is awful. Windows 8 ditched windows in favor of fullscreen apps." Wrong. Manual windows management is just what a professional needs. The window manager will never know what is the best position and size for your programming editor/environment. It will never know where is the best position and size for your preferred debug window. And how to place and size your browser windows for API docume…

Manual window management on Windows can be awful. With decent window managers one can hold keys (alt in my case) and then drag or resize windows easily by dragging the mouse. They snap. And you can have more key combos for things like snap to left/right, maximise, minimise, always in front, etc.

Ever since getting used to this (in XFCE), using windows in Windows feels incredibly annoying and infuriating.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by GBiT »

Windows had to give us choice to use old windows 7 style, or windows 8 style for touch. Right now for enterprise I see, that for companies it is no difference to teach how to use Ubuntu or new windows 8. Windows 8 put OS from leader position on PC to mobile OS for touch devices.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by FridayWithJohn »

spdy wrote: post #2

Am i the only one who does not like "touch" on a desktop/laptop. It is not the revolutionary input method that makes everything magical. I want to think in boxes (desktops) not a fluid streams of desktop space. We need something else for the desktop.

Agreed! Thankfully there is something else. Ubuntu baby!

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by eksith »

FridayWithJohn wrote: post #14
spdy wrote: post #2

Am i the only one who does not like "touch" on a desktop/laptop. It is not the revolutionary input method that makes everything magical. I want to think in boxes (desktops) not a fluid streams of desktop space. We need something else for the desktop.

Agreed! Thankfully there is something else. Ubuntu baby!

Unity is no better IMO. It feels like another counter-intuitive and ultimately awkward (for me) interface. Which is why I'm right now on Linux Mint which ironically has the most "Windows 7-like" post-Win7 UI.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by ethana »

I like it. I think the 2+ decades old idea of resizable and draggable windows is becoming a nuisance. With 5+ windows overlaying each others, the desktop becomes a chaotic mess.

People who say they need to be able to have multiple windows on screen should really be having multiple monitors if they don't already. Because even with high-res monitors, most productivity applications (IDEs,Excel,etc) are unusable anyway when not in full screen.

The drag&drop can be easily solved by dragging content from one app to another by dropping on their desired app icon on the taskbar. Or have dedicated share button to other apps like how Android does it.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by nodata »

ethana wrote: post #16

I like it. I think the 2+ decades old idea of resizable and draggable windows is becoming a nuisance. With 5+ windows overlaying each others, the desktop becomes a chaotic mess. People who say they need to be able to have multiple windows on screen should really be having multiple monitors if they don't already. Because even with high-res monitors, most productivity applications (IDEs,Excel,etc) are unusable anyway w…

> people.. should really be having multiple monitors if they don't already.

Multiple monitors are used because hires monitors are expensive. Once that changes we are back to the same problem.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by xylem »

Swinx43 wrote: post #5

Although this is a much better looking concept than what is currently available in Windows 8 I still do not understand how it solves anything for people who actually need to do development on these machines. I would hate to have to do development in an IDE such as Visual Studio or Eclipse while being restricted to this sort of interface. Trying to force a tablet interface on a desktop machine is simply not acceptable…

> In the brand new Visual Studio 2015 keyboard support has been dropped so that we could focus on delivering state-of-the-art handwriting recognition algorithms so that you can easily develop even the most complex applications with nothing more than a single finger or a stylus.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by 72deluxe »

aw3c2 wrote: post #12
jzzskijj wrote: post #3

"Manual window management is awful. Windows 8 ditched windows in favor of fullscreen apps." Wrong. Manual windows management is just what a professional needs. The window manager will never know what is the best position and size for your programming editor/environment. It will never know where is the best position and size for your preferred debug window. And how to place and size your browser windows for API docume…

Manual window management on Windows can be awful. With decent window managers one can hold keys (alt in my case) and then drag or resize windows easily by dragging the mouse. They snap. And you can have more key combos for things like snap to left/right, maximise, minimise, always in front, etc. Ever since getting used to this (in XFCE), using windows in Windows feels incredibly annoying and infuriating.

Windows 7 onwards has keyboard shortcuts - WinKey + cursors moves the windows to snap to half of the screen (top, bottom, left, right) and learn the Alt-Space-then X to maximise and Alt-Space then R to restore. If you happy using the mouse, Windows snap to the edges of the screen. There is also a utility you can get for shortcuts very similar to the Mac OSX ShiftIt tool but I can't remember the name of it!
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