Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS • Hacker News Board

Re: Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Post by melange » Sun, Sep 29, 2013, 8:08 AM UTC

danmaz74 wrote: post #60

melange wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gibberish. There is no alternative URL to click on because a competitive global search engine would cost billions of dollars to build, the space is deeply encumbered by Google's giant patent portfolio, and the information used to build the index is to a great extent no longer available on the web. That's why Bing is a distant second and there are no other players.

Gibberish? Do you know what "vendor lock in" means at all? Your points have nothing to do with that.

Barriers to market entry are a kind of vendor lock-in. We are locked in.

Re: Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Post by ZeroGravitas » Sun, Sep 29, 2013, 10:33 AM UTC

mamcx wrote: post #58

Touche wrote: post #29

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Those posts were making statements about the future, and both were unequivocally wrong.

that the tablet market doesn’t today * look anything like the smartphone market ever did. That was correct back then. Also the smartphone market is defined by several competing platforms, form-factors, tech and capabilities. The tablet market is defined by the iPad, and the android trying to be the iPad.

That claim was only correct in the US, and while Gruber thinks the US system has unfairly aided Android, it's fairly clear the opposite is true.

Re: Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Post by mamcx » Mon, Sep 30, 2013, 6:24 PM UTC

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #62

mamcx wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that the tablet market doesn’t today * look anything like the smartphone market ever did. That was correct back then. Also the smartphone market is defined by several competing platforms, form-factors, tech and capabilities. The tablet market is defined by the iPad, and the android trying to be the iPad.

That claim was only correct in the US, and while Gruber thinks the US system has unfairly aided Android, it's fairly clear the opposite is true.

Back them truckloads of tablets worldwide was shipped. But all of them were market failures. Only iPad have traction + mindshare.

BTW: "it's fairly clear the opposite is true." The opposite of what?

Re: Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Post by ZeroGravitas » Tue, Oct 01, 2013, 10:25 AM UTC

mamcx wrote: post #63

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That claim was only correct in the US, and while Gruber thinks the US system has unfairly aided Android, it's fairly clear the opposite is true.

Back them truckloads of tablets worldwide was shipped. But all of them were market failures. Only iPad have traction + mindshare. BTW: "it's fairly clear the opposite is true." The opposite of what?

No, they were market failures in the US, they've been doing well in Asia especially (as have big Android phones), see my link elsewhere in this thread. This is not particularly unusual, e.g. Xbox vs Playstation sales mix varies by region. And South Korea, Japan and China are now important markets for Android games companies.

The "opposite is true" means that it's fairly clear now that the US subsidization model hides the cost differences between phones, and puts an effective floor on prices for handsets, which favors iPhones because they are designed around the American price system.

This effect is much less strong or non-existant elsewhere on the planet and Android benefits from the ability to compete fairly on price. Android tablets have followed the same pattern that Android phones followed in these less distorted markets, though slightly faster since Android phones have already created a beachhead.