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Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Post by siglesias »

do-it-good wrote: post #220
siglesias wrote: post #209

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The common definition of spam is something that most people consider junk but a few people might use, thus justifying inflicting it upon everyone. Your definition is almost the opposite: something that most people find useful but that you happen not to need. This is an abuse if not outright misuse of the term.

Haha, many people just find it too painful to admit they were ever wrong. So once they say they support a given team, party, church, company they start ignoring all evidence against it. Interesting how after your original argument (the difference between app and bookmark) was defeated you came up with a new one (percentage of people liking).

I don't think anybody made the claim that no app is spam, only, from what I can tell, that no iOS built-in app is spam. Which is more than lots of Android phones can say about their built-in apps.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Post by [deleted] »

yareally wrote: post #196
gcb0 wrote: post #194

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I use my touchpad with the native DPI, which is not officially supported, and never had any problem with app compatibility due to the screen... but i don't use many apps. mostly browsing. Also, i'm on CM9. which is android 4.0 something. The last thing that didn't work and was holding me on CM7 is the camera. It's working now. CM10, android 4.2 is coming and the reports are good, but it is a work in progress. That sa…

Since you mentioned 4.2 on the touchpad, you might be interested in this: https://plus.google.com/104277415207525128383/posts/dv6tyqLV...

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Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Post by gcb0 »

carlosrg wrote: post #218
piyush_soni wrote: post #152

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Really, I think the same. Comparing just a browser bookmark which doesn't always come in your way with an ever intrusive app and loving crapware just because it's from their loved company? I mean, I knew Apple fans are dense, but this is excessive.

Whatever. I just can't argue with a person that believes an ad is the same as a built-in functionality. I can't understand what kind of logic and thinking is going in your head, really.

Well, you can still order pizza trhu the "ad" app. so let's call that built-in functionality as well, shall we?

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Post by eropple »

siglesias wrote: post #209
eropple wrote: post #201

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> Is the phone app spam if I want nothing to do with it? The music app if I don't listen to music? Yes. This is quite real of me, I assure you. If I can't make it Go Away if I have no use for it, it's spam. As it happens, I've consolidated my reading. It isn't in Newsstand. It should not trouble me if I don't want it, and having a "junk" drawer is a sad non-solution.

The common definition of spam is something that most people consider junk but a few people might use, thus justifying inflicting it upon everyone. Your definition is almost the opposite: something that most people find useful but that you happen not to need. This is an abuse if not outright misuse of the term.

Many people enjoy getting political news emailed to them. Many, many people. Yet it infuriates me when it gets forwarded to me because it is--wait for it--spam. It is annoying crap I don't want.

Spam is defined as whether it annoys the receiver, not the sender's intentions. And there's no 'unsubscribe' in iOS.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Post by gcb0 »

gohrt wrote: post #182
sinak wrote: post #141

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And circumventing the "technological protection measure" is illegal under §1201 of the DMCA.

Printers aren't copyrighted, and moving a printer is not making a copy.

He is hinting a the common knowledge of what DMCA is.

it practically makes it illegal to even change the battery of a device you bought if there is not an user accessible and labeled port to change said battery.

So i am guessing that fiddling with the DRM software on the printer also is a crime under such idiot law.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Post by piyush_soni »

sjwright wrote: post #215
piyush_soni wrote: post #205

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Aah. You don't pay to come here, and it's not your property. It's a public forum, which by definition has comments from people which you might or might not like :). Here, only the comments which public on the whole like should be there - and that is already the case - if majority doesn't like it, it'll automatically get suppressed. A phone is a different thing - it's a personal property. Only the things you like shou…

> Only the things you like should be there on your phone. Moral of the story: don't live in the USA.

Or, just buy an unlocked (carrier free) phone, rooted. That's what I do.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Post by interpol_p »

statictype wrote: post #206
interpol_p wrote: post #195

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His point is that Samsung allows carriers to manipulate and install crapware on their phones. Apple does not. Whether you think built-in iOS features are "crapware" is besides the point. Everything that ships with iOS is put there deliberately by Apple. Compare that to a Samsung device, where you will be getting stuff put there by Samsung (which you might agree with and want) plus random stuff put there by carriers (…

Why does it matter to me, the customer, whether the crap on my phone that I can't get rid of was placed there by Samsung or my Carrier or Apple? It's still crap that I can't get rid of.

It doesn't matter to you as a consumer. That's not the point.

It only matters if you are interested in discussing the amount of control carriers are able to exert over manufacturers, and whether companies are willing to compromise their design vision to satisfy carriers.

The entire point of the OP is to that Samsung has a problem with crapware that is not under their control. Regardless of whether you think Apple's pre-installed apps are "crap", it is entirely under their control to remove them — meaning they are in a more flexible position than Samsung.

Again, not relevant to you as a consumer. Only relevant if you wish to take part in this discussion.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Post by sbuk »

gcb0 wrote: post #223
carlosrg wrote: post #218

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Whatever. I just can't argue with a person that believes an ad is the same as a built-in functionality. I can't understand what kind of logic and thinking is going in your head, really.

Well, you can still order pizza trhu the "ad" app. so let's call that built-in functionality as well, shall we?

How about we call it what it is. Advertising. However you frame it, it's advertising. Is it useful? Who cares. It's advertising. Order a pizza using the app and your telco gets paid. Twice. Being able to remove Apple's built in apps is besides the point. Yes, it's mildly irritating that this can't be done, but it's not the same thing. Pretending otherwise is disingenuous.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Post by hexley »

eYsYs wrote: post #115
onedognight wrote: post #47

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No. It's a Samsung problem. You don't see crapware on iPhones do you?

Well, I don't see any custom ROMs for iPhones. These are magnificent at times. CyanogenMod users know what I'm talking about.

http://www.whited00r.com

Prepare to be educated. Yes a lot of it is a hack but on half the supported phones CM isn't too much different really. At least the whited00r releases are stable and have consistent feature support over obsolete handsets.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Post by tommorris »

statictype wrote: post #206
interpol_p wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His point is that Samsung allows carriers to manipulate and install crapware on their phones. Apple does not. Whether you think built-in iOS features are "crapware" is besides the point. Everything that ships with iOS is put there deliberately by Apple. Compare that to a Samsung device, where you will be getting stuff put there by Samsung (which you might agree with and want) plus random stuff put there by carriers (…

Why does it matter to me, the customer, whether the crap on my phone that I can't get rid of was placed there by Samsung or my Carrier or Apple? It's still crap that I can't get rid of.

The crap that carriers make tends to actually be crap. The crap that Apple makes tends to be stuff that people queue round blocks for weeks to buy.

There's stuff wrong with iOS, sure, but Apple keeping the shit that carriers want to install off the phone is one thing they've done brillianty.

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