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Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by epo »

untog wrote: post #86
rmrfrmrf wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Um, excuse me, don't you realize that Android has been installed on approximately 8 million times the number of devices that iOS has been installed on? Think of how many feature phones, Arduinos, and toasters have all of the same capabilities Apple's iterative, piddly phone offering. Probably more features, now that I think about it, since, like, I don't have to jailbreak my toaster to get all of the features I want.

Mocking Android fanboys in a forum overwhelmingly dominated by Apple adulation? I hate to use a Reddit/4chan meme, but so brave ...

Funny, I thought HN was dominated by Android fanboys. Perception is everything eh?

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by joakleaf »

mikeash wrote: post #67
joakleaf wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but Apple probably sold most of their phones via their web site and not from retail stores. Otherwise each retail store would have sold 20000 phones by the reverse of your math. So 4000 is probably not a very accurate estimate either...

Even if 90% of sales were online, that's still only 40,000. An order of magnitude or so of accuracy is all I'm shooting for anyway.

I am sorry, but I think you are assuming a little bit too much here.

You are guestimating that 4000 gold phones were sold in the stores based on a 10 per store rumored number you've heard and 400 stores. Then you guess that retail is only 10% (another guess) and so multiply you original guestimate by 10 to get 40000 gold phones.

It's quite hopeless guesswork. We don't know the distribution of models in retail or online. We don't know how much is sold online compared to retail. We don't know how much was sold outside Apple's retail stores (by e.g. AT&T). We don't even know the geographical distribution (i.e. higher gold-ratio in China than US).

If we assume a factor 3 to 1 sales of iPhone 5S vs 5C based on Localitics'report (1), Apple has sold between 6-7 million iPhone 5S. Your 40.000 number isn't even 1% of that, so I think you are an order of magnitude off still.

[1] http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/23/iphone-5s-3-times-...

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by twoodfin »

joosters wrote: post #96
joshmlewis wrote: post #78

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I'm not so sure why you wait that long, maybe things are different in the UK, but I think this info could be useful to a lot of people. I'll just throw out a scenario I tell everyone when it comes to buying Apple devices that's strictly just financial and not exactly being an Apple 'fanboy.' Two options here, if you buy a phone on contract for say $200, then you can always sell it in a year, or even two, for around d…

But you're missing an important point: If you own your phone you can get much cheaper 'SIM only' deals with the mobile carriers, meaning that over your 1-2 year contract, you'll pay far less. Getting a new phone as part of a 'subsidised' contract is effectively borrowing money to buy a phone. Your loan repayments are the monthly fee. If you have the cash, buying the phone up-front is almost always cheaper.

Not the biggest U.S. mobile carriers. AT&T and Verizon have awful BYOD plans, as I understand it. I'd be thrilled to find out I could do better than my grandfathered AT&T unlimited plan (two phones, 5GB/each before throttled, $120/mo.), but keep their network.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by mikeash »

joakleaf wrote: post #102
mikeash wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if 90% of sales were online, that's still only 40,000. An order of magnitude or so of accuracy is all I'm shooting for anyway.

I am sorry, but I think you are assuming a little bit too much here. You are guestimating that 4000 gold phones were sold in the stores based on a 10 per store rumored number you've heard and 400 stores. Then you guess that retail is only 10% (another guess) and so multiply you original guestimate by 10 to get 40000 gold phones. It's quite hopeless guesswork. We don't know the distribution of models in retail or onli…

How are you assuming any less than me?

Of course mine is a complete guess. I make no claims otherwise. But so is yours. So kindly cut the attitude.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by joakleaf »

tedunangst wrote: post #83
joakleaf wrote: post #77

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When you enter the US, you've had to give your finger prints for many years now. I've even been scanned once leaving. That means they have a database of all US and non -US citizen's who has entered the country. I am not a US citizen, but I don't understand why Americans have never complained about it?

Citizens aren't fingerprinted.

In that case, I stand corrected and I am sorry about that.

However, it does sound like it would be really easy for the US government to convince everybody that citizens should also have their finger prints scanned to confirm their identity.

In fact it is really really odd that they only scan foreigners to confirm their identity.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by alayne »

[deleted] wrote: post #37

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It's exciting for some people. Technology is still changing relatively quickly in mobile. The improvements to hardware and software have been amazing over the past half decade. Apple only releases new phones once a year so the buzz gets more intense.

You hardly hear about desktop computers anymore unless you follow the industry closely. I remember when the Intel Pentium being released was a huge deal in all the news media.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by kunai »

vor_ wrote: post #88

Remember all the naysaying? One story on HN claimed Apple had a "Windows 95 problem". Yet it seems that every time Apple reveals a product that tech blogs are disappointed with, it goes on to set sales records.

First of all, this is an international phone. Second. there are TWO phones. It's likely that sales figures are very similar to last year's marked-down 4S and 5 sales combined, but if you count the delayed international launch last year and combine the sales after all markets were opened to the net sales this year, there's likely little to no difference.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by panacea »

bane wrote: post #84

So I had a few separate experiences with this over the weekend: 1) A friend stood in line for a few hours, got to the front, found out they didn't have the color he wanted and left. 2) A colleague in another company got one and she immediately remarked, "it looks just like Android!". 3) A neighbor returned theirs because they couldn't read all the low contrast stuff on the tiny screen. 4) Another neighbor has kept th…

1) A friend stood in line for a few hours, got to the front, found out they didn't have the color he wanted and left.

– At the Apple store I was at, Apple staff greeted people entering the queue, asked them what they intended to purchase and gave them a card (reservation)

2) A colleague in another company got one and she immediately remarked, "it looks just like Android!".

– You overheard a conversation in another company? Good ears. Extra credit for "she".

3) A neighbor returned theirs because they couldn't read all the low contrast stuff on the tiny screen.

– "Hey neighbour! I couldn't help noticing you aren't mowing your lawn with a phone?!" "The screen was too tiny neighbourino!"

4) Another neighbor has kept theirs, but complains all the colors and things are too bright and too loud.

– "IT'S TOO LOUD, HOW DO YOU SHUT IT OFF?? I'M BLIND!!!"

5) Another neighbor went in to buy his, got some time to play with it, decided he didn't like it and went and bought a couple Galaxy S4s for him and his wife instead.

– 'Hey Wifey, wanna line up in this 2 hour queue? Dum, de dum [two hours in the queue pass]. Oh hey, we're at the front of the queue! Nah this sucks. Wanna go buy some Samsung Galaxies? YES!'

6) Coworker said he like it, thought the control panel and "slide away the background apps" was great. Hated that the slide away the emails is now the wrong way.

– Your astro-turfing obviously disinterests you, as does your job and it shows dude :[ Quit your job.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by alayne »

mikeash wrote: post #23
supercoder wrote: post #17

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This was just their minor release cycle, so yeah it will be crazy to think how the 6 will sell.

I wouldn't be so sure. The 4S sold over four million units on its opening weekend, which is pretty close to the 5's five million, but way more than the 4's 1.7 million. Personally, I'm deliberately on the "S" upgrade cycle. I started off with a 3GS, then got a 4S, and now have a 5S. I figure I'll let other people deal with the bleeding edge, and I can get the model with all the refinements afterwards. I'd be willing…

I think it's also a good idea to wait a month or so after release. What's the rush? Let the first production runs go through and work out the kinks. So far I have heard some reports of screen issues on some 5s models. With a new and unusual part like the fingerprint sensor I'd rather wait a bit.
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