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Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by rmrfrmrf »

untog wrote: post #57
coldcode wrote: post #22

Clearly they are going out of business. Not to mention only 200 Million devices running iOS7 so far.

Is anyone actually claiming that Apple are going out of business? This kind of reflexive defensiveness doesn't really help anything.

Um, excuse me, don't you realize that Android has been installed on approximately 8 million times the number of devices that iOS has been installed on? Think of how many feature phones, Arduinos, and toasters have all of the same capabilities Apple's iterative, piddly phone offering. Probably more features, now that I think about it, since, like, I don't have to jailbreak my toaster to get all of the features I want.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by tedunangst »

ChikkaChiChi wrote: post #63
joakleaf wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've seen this for a couple of weeks now... The NSA can collect your finger print from the airport among other places already with technology specifically for this purpose. How do they benefit from collecting your fingerprint from a phone? What is it you think they can do with it that they cannot already do? Tracking cookies from Facebook and Google can do far more to invade on your privacy.

Weird. I just travelled from Minneapolis, to Atlanta, and back again and I'm all but certain I did not actually touch ANYTHING in any airport.

You didn't have to take off your shoes and put them through the DNA extraction device disguised as an x-ray machine?

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by tedunangst »

joakleaf wrote: post #77
ChikkaChiChi wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird. I just travelled from Minneapolis, to Atlanta, and back again and I'm all but certain I did not actually touch ANYTHING in any airport.

When you enter the US, you've had to give your finger prints for many years now. I've even been scanned once leaving. That means they have a database of all US and non -US citizen's who has entered the country. I am not a US citizen, but I don't understand why Americans have never complained about it?

Citizens aren't fingerprinted.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by bane »

So I had a few separate experiences with this over the weekend:

1) A friend stood in line for a few hours, got to the front, found out they didn't have the color he wanted and left.

2) A colleague in another company got one and she immediately remarked, "it looks just like Android!".

3) A neighbor returned theirs because they couldn't read all the low contrast stuff on the tiny screen.

4) Another neighbor has kept theirs, but complains all the colors and things are too bright and too loud.

5) Another neighbor went in to buy his, got some time to play with it, decided he didn't like it and went and bought a couple Galaxy S4s for him and his wife instead.

6) Coworker said he like it, thought the control panel and "slide away the background apps" was great. Hated that the slide away the emails is now the wrong way.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by untog »

agumonkey wrote: post #76
untog wrote: post #61

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now everything he shows is questionnable Everything he ever showed is questionable, he's an entertainer not an investigative news reporter. However, pretty much all of these segments have been real in the past, so I'm not sure why that would change now. They obviously cherry pick respondents.

Fair enough. But how do you know the previous ones weren't staged ? Maybe they weren't, it was a believable prank to compare a device with itself and see the average person make up fantasy differences. But here it's an ipad mini of twice the surface, and screen tasting ... I mean come on.

What do you mean by staged? In a sense they all are- I'm sure they ask the question to a lot of people who say "that's not an iPhone, that's an iPad Mini". But they edit those ones out. They're not intending to portray an accurate image of the American consumer.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by untog »

rmrfrmrf wrote: post #81
untog wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is anyone actually claiming that Apple are going out of business? This kind of reflexive defensiveness doesn't really help anything.

Um, excuse me, don't you realize that Android has been installed on approximately 8 million times the number of devices that iOS has been installed on? Think of how many feature phones, Arduinos, and toasters have all of the same capabilities Apple's iterative, piddly phone offering. Probably more features, now that I think about it, since, like, I don't have to jailbreak my toaster to get all of the features I want.

Mocking Android fanboys in a forum overwhelmingly dominated by Apple adulation? I hate to use a Reddit/4chan meme, but so brave...

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by rmrfrmrf »

laichzeit0 wrote: post #41
[deleted] wrote: post #37

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"phone" is a weird word to use for these devices. It's a computer in your pocket with instant access to the Internet that just haphazardly has a GSM module for legacy reasons.

::whispers into your ear:: "PIN number..., ATM machine...*"

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by officemonkey »

themstheones wrote: post #46
laichzeit0 wrote: post #41

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"phone" is a weird word to use for these devices. It's a computer in your pocket with instant access to the Internet that just haphazardly has a GSM module for legacy reasons.

They should call them communicators, like on Star Trek. Unfortunately that ship has sailed.

I actually prefer the UK word "mobile" which takes away the phone connotation, and combines with "computer" as well as "phone."

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Post by danabramov »

olleicua wrote: post #35
milesskorpen wrote: post #30

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As people have written a thousand times so far, the finger print isn't saved off device. Yes, it is saved. But if someone can get your device, they can also get your fingerprint (probably from the screen of the same device).

Since you are making this claim, I'll assume you've read the entire codebase of iOS. Is there anything stopping Apple from sending out an update that uploads the fingerprint?? Is there anything stopping the NSA from requiring Apple to do this?? It's not paranoia anymore.

How about hardware design doesn't allow it because the thing being stored is a hash?
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