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I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by mortehu »

benjvi wrote: post #202
derefr wrote: post #133

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> But note that "poor fashion decisions" does not mean "disgusting, reprehensible goblin," despite the usual fashionista hyperbole. You're reading their casual implication in the wrong direction. What they usually mean is that disgusting, reprehensible goblin implies poor fashion decisions . Thus, by Bayesian inference, poor fashion decisions are evidence which increases the likelihood that you are a disgusting, repr…

So, what do you think is the prior probability of being a disgusting reprehensible goblin? And what is the difference in likelihood of poor fashion decisions between goblins and non-goblins? Seems like would be interesting to actually try and find out which personality traits correspond most with poor fashion decisions (presumably introversion would be a given?)

I don't think it's introversion. I think it's the personality types that don't register or care how (negatively) people are reacting to them. For example, the guy that will talk to you incessantly about some topic you don't care about, or someone who's smelly because of their own fault.

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

chris_wot wrote: post #287
PhasmaFelis wrote: post #14

The only valid definition of "hipster" is "someone who cares whether people are 'hipster' or not." With that firmly in mind: fuck hipsters.

Uh, by your own definition you care whether a person is a hipster so you can tell them o go fuck themselves. Doesn't this make you a hipster? What's it like to tell yourself to get fucked?

That was the joke, yes.

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

obstacle1 wrote: post #213
PhasmaFelis wrote: post #97

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Yeah, wearing a beat-up $10 fedora with a T-shirt and jeans is not a great fashion decision. (But note that "poor fashion decisions" does not mean "disgusting, reprehensible goblin," despite the usual fashionista hyperbole.) I have a nice, properly-fitted felt fedora that I try to keep in good shape, and I wear it with a nice button-down and slacks at a bare minimum, usually a tie and sometimes a full suit. I've had…

I agree that poor fashion sense != terrible person. But clarify this for me: fedora aside, your standard dress is a button-down with a tie, but usually no suit jacket?

Not "standard," really. My day-to-day wear is usually a short-sleeve button-down and slacks; ties and fedoras are more of a clubbing outfit. The one that the bouncer and half a dozen other people complimented me was a crimson dress shirt, sapphire tie, black slacks and fedora. Risky but striking, and evidence suggests that I pulled it off.

(I will now pause to enjoy your apoplectic fit. Yes, you. You know who you are.)

By comparison, my last-minute no-budget "Devil out on the town" Halloween costume was a black suit, black shirt, black fedora with the King of Hearts in the band, blood-red tie.

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Post by user24 »

GhotiFish wrote: post #308
peterwwillis wrote: post #8

Cyber bullying kills kids. That's one thing to remember about all this. If he had been a shaky, insecure, frightened teen, this kind of treatment can push mild depression into thoughts of suicide. And many adults are also vulnerable to this kind of abuse. If you see this happening to anyone, please, step up and defend them.

Please get them away from the internet, defending them will do literally nothing. Bullying in schools is awful because children have absolutely no recourse. They can't get away, they are forced in day after day. They have no tools to mediate conflict. Bullying on the internet is trivial, you arn't trapped, you arn't forced into these situations. You can hide if you want to. You don't have to reveal who you are. You c…

> Bullying on the internet is trivial, you arn't trapped, you arn't forced into these situations. You can hide if you want to.

Yeah, just stop going online, it's so simple! I know almost your entire social life is online, and the identities we create online are increasingly hard-linked to our real life identities, but all you have to do is exclude yourself from everything that you enjoy doing online and you'll be fine!

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Post by Kiro »

potatolicious wrote: post #7

Hipster-hate strikes me as just another thinly veiled form of bullying, and it's interesting to see how readily internet nerds - the people who are disproportionately to have been bullied in the past - engage in it. Look! He's different! Let's make assumptions about his motivations and get him! It's also interesting to see how many times Reddit (and other communities) fly into a rage-fest because of lack of context,…

I don't know. Where I'm from the hipsters are the bullies.

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Post by hef19898 »

jmduke wrote: post #120
corresation wrote: post #61

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Reddit is visited by tens of millions of people of virtually every demographic. Corralling them as "internet nerds" seems a bit like you're trying for some bullying yourself. In any case, talk about much ado about absolutely nothing. A bunch of people said silly things, largely under the assumption that it was no consequence (that no one was hurt, etc): In many ways the comments on there are performance art. It is th…

Reddit is visited by tens of millions of people of virtually every demographic. Corralling them as "internet nerds" seems a bit like you're trying for some bullying yourself. The post to which you're replying didn't even mention Reddit. Reddit is by no means the only place where a nerdy demographic (and I'll define 'nerdy demographic' as 18-25 that skew towards STEM education and exhibit above-average internet usage)…

Having a STEM backgound myself, that is something that saddens me with others with a similar education. Some, not all or even the majority of STEM educated people, show an arrogance towards people with different backgrounds that I just see as arrogant and ignorant at the same time. Nothing against the friendly exchange of not at all serious stereotypes with, say, economics majors. But some people just can't stop there.

For me, having a somehow technical or scientific background means to look at things as they really are instead of believing stereotypes yourself. The internet only makes it easier to voice these oppinions. At the very least it says more about the commenters than anything else by ahowing just how ignorant they are.

But than, maybe that's just human and we are were like that at a certain pint in our lives.

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Post by b1daly »

EvanKelly wrote: post #164
Dylan16807 wrote: post #145

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If they actually enjoy what they're doing, and not the feeling of being 'counterculture', then they're not being "hipsters". It's pretty simple.

What's wrong with enjoying the feeling of being counterculture? This whole anti-hipster sentiment is so bizarre to me. It's all about policing other peoples' fashion/taste/activities without reason. The idea that hipsters are somehow not genuine doesn't make any sense. What is there to be genuine to ? If you use an old film camera because you like the photos it takes and are fascinated by how it operates, more power…

Me too, I actually find hipster culture, to the extent it is indeed a thing, to bring a certain sense of fun to my little world. As opposed to everyone just giving up and buying what they see on TV, watching football, Facebook etc.
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