What does HN think about the last statement? -Promote social programs for when things go wrong
Sounds like political advice more than financial advice. In a similar vein, I would advise people to support charities that help the less fortunate like food banks, but I wouldn't consider that financial advice.
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#12What does HN think about the last statement? -Promote social programs for when things go wrong
It takes a special kind of hubris to social welfare benefits believing you will never need them.
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#13Almost all of this is excellent advice, except for one point: "save 20% of your money". That's a bare minimum, which will let you retire after about 37 years of working. Bump it to 35% and you'll retire after 25 years. Bump it to 50% and retire in 17. Bump it to two-thirds and retire in 10 years. That's one of the most important factors in your personal finances: not how much you make off your investments, not whethe…
"Never borrow money" would include never having a mortgage, which would be a huge lost opportunity for many. Not to mention borrowing money to invest in oneself, start a business, etc.
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#14Almost all of this is excellent advice, except for one point: "save 20% of your money". That's a bare minimum, which will let you retire after about 37 years of working. Bump it to 35% and you'll retire after 25 years. Bump it to 50% and retire in 17. Bump it to two-thirds and retire in 10 years. That's one of the most important factors in your personal finances: not how much you make off your investments, not whethe…
The savings part sounds like advice from Mr. Money Mustache, there was discussion about his advice here before. "Never borrow money" would include never having a mortgage, which would be a huge lost opportunity for many. Not to mention borrowing money to invest in oneself, start a business, etc.
Education depends heavily on return on investment; you'd want to carefully analyze how much more you'll make with that education, how long it'll take you to pay off the debt, etc. It can certainly make sense when attempting to bootstrap yourself if your alternative is no higher education at all, but if you're in a financial position where you have to borrow for tuition, you may well qualify for better options such as scholarships. If you're reasonably well off and borrowing to go to a higher-end school, that makes much less sense.
And yes, the savings -> years to retirement table came from a Mr. Money Mustache article: http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/01/13/the-shockingly-sim... .
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#15Almost all of this is excellent advice, except for one point: "save 20% of your money". That's a bare minimum, which will let you retire after about 37 years of working. Bump it to 35% and you'll retire after 25 years. Bump it to 50% and retire in 17. Bump it to two-thirds and retire in 10 years. That's one of the most important factors in your personal finances: not how much you make off your investments, not whethe…
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#16Before buying a house, buying individual securities, or maxing any retirement contributions, you need enough liquidity in your investments to get you through an illness or layoff that leaves you without income for a year.
It amazes me how otherwise intelligent peers of mine will be paying extra on mortgages, student loans, and retirement funds with less than $5k in the bank.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like political advice more than financial advice. In a similar vein, I would advise people to support charities that help the less fortunate like food banks, but I wouldn't consider that financial advice.
he clearly qualifies it for "when things go wrong", so the suggestion is more like some kind of insurance in case that happens
No, someone thought they'd be cute and throw a political jab in there.
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#18We're still below the s&p inflation adjusted high from ~2000 -- almost 14 years later. When will the gains finally arrive?
I worry that there is some systemic problem in our economy that has leaders playing whack-a-crisis every five or ten years that erases years of gains.
I've read John Bogle and I want to believe. But a few years ago I took some money out of index funds and placed it in a rental property and so far I've seen very predicable returns with no loss in principle, and it makes me wonder if I should keep bothering with index funds at all.
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#19Almost all of this is excellent advice, except for one point: "save 20% of your money". That's a bare minimum, which will let you retire after about 37 years of working. Bump it to 35% and you'll retire after 25 years. Bump it to 50% and retire in 17. Bump it to two-thirds and retire in 10 years. That's one of the most important factors in your personal finances: not how much you make off your investments, not whethe…
"Save 20%" ... gross or net?
The important detail about increasing your savings rate: it also means decreasing your spending rate, and you can retire as soon as your savings generates income greater than your spending rate, not greater than your overall income.
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#20What does HN think about the last statement? -Promote social programs for when things go wrong
So in the ideal world everyone around you is doing the same thing as the card. If that is true, then when something goes wrong there will be plenty of safeguards already in place. It takes a special kind of hubris to social welfare benefits believing you will never need them.
That still doesn't constitute financial advice, unless your choice to follow the card somehow influences others to follow the same card, which is unlikely at any measurable level.