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Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development

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Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development

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Post by ryan_f »

jmduke wrote: post #3

I am impressed by how much time I've spent on the site (and still don't understand exactly what it does or why it's worth $40/user/mo.) I am also impressed by how the future of web development is a node.js package. To the creators: you are clearly capable of creating slick marketing (the site looks great!), I'd advise spending some time working on your value proposition. The "Just code / Just branch / Just works" tri…

I have a short attention span for sites and after clicking around for approximately 30 seconds I have no clue what is going on. It seems to be an expanded team environment PaaS?

If I didn't click on this from hacker news, I would have bounced immediately.

The other thing is if I can't understand their marketing website, I have little faith that I would understand the product if using it.

Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development

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Post by jonahx »

jmduke wrote: post #3

I am impressed by how much time I've spent on the site (and still don't understand exactly what it does or why it's worth $40/user/mo.) I am also impressed by how the future of web development is a node.js package. To the creators: you are clearly capable of creating slick marketing (the site looks great!), I'd advise spending some time working on your value proposition. The "Just code / Just branch / Just works" tri…

I wish everyone creating products for developers would listen to this advice. There are so many developer products these days (including some successful ones) that leave me absolutely baffled even after a few minutes on their website. I am left with a vague sense of impressive-sounding features that probably apply to someone, but have no concrete idea what they are for or if they apply to me.

Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development

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Post by dbyrd »

ZirconCode wrote: post #10

I'm not quite sure what it does, but it looks like a framework which integrates your hosting solution? Also, Is it me or is the pricing ridiculous? The names great. I might have misunderstood a lot, it's very unclear and I'm confused. Also if the UI are part of the package, they look too "bootstrappy", if that's a valid complaint.

UI is not part of the package. Thanks for the feedback!

Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development

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Post by tingletech »

dbyrd wrote: post #26
javajosh wrote: post #17

My take: Bowery is basically Google App Engine for Node.js. Of course, they put their own spin on things. The whole 'bowery connect' thing is unusual - they say that your "dev environment is online" but I'm not sure what they mean. It appears that what 'bowery connect' does is initialize a git repository and starts sync'ing filesystem changes to a remote host. In other words, rather than GAE's more traditional "deplo…

"What if HTTP endpoints were as cheap as git branches? What if you had an active endpoint for every branch?" I really like that

Another group in my office has been doing this for a long time, except with hg. They have it set up so that whenever you push a branch to dev, there is a [branchname].dev.[propertyname].org. You push to the master branch on the production machine, and then that is what is running the production site.

Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development

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Post by icefox »

If you follow the link on the main page to "Learn more about how Bowery works." it first asks you to install npm

1) Is npm something that comes standard with any operating system these days?

2) Why do I have to install something on my system to "learn" how it works?

This page should probably be what many comments here are trying to say which is that the site doesn't really say what it is. Something like Google App Engine, but using Node?

Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development

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Post by rfnslyr »

Shish2k wrote: post #9
rfnslyr wrote: post #2

After going through the documentation and your home page, I still have no idea what this product is actually about.

Looks to me like a proprietary web framework nicely integrated with a proprietary database and proprietary cache. If their DB & cache really are as great at automatic optimisation as they say then I might be interested as stand-alone products to run alongside my current stack; not a great fan of vendor lock-in though, so I think I'll be skipping it for now :(

Am I the only one that absolutely hates downloading, exploring, configuring, and managing new software? I don't trust it. I rather use something old with a known track record.

Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development

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Post by rgbrgb »

JacksonGariety wrote: post #27

> Our Philosophy: Web development is terrible. Go fuck yourself, Bowery.

Though it didn't need the expletive, I totally agree with the sentiment. This 'Philosophy' is offensive to all of your would-be early adopters. Like I work on building web stuff all day and kind of enjoy it. The people contributing to all of the open source projects on github probably kind of enjoy it. Have a little respect.

If you're going to write a mission statement, don't start it with "X sucks". That's not a mission and it's certainly not a philosophy.

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