Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development
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Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development
#2After going through the documentation and your home page, I still have no idea what this product is actually about.
Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development
#3I am impressed by how much time I've spent on the site (and still don't understand exactly what it does or why it's worth $40/user/mo.) I am also impressed by how the future of web development is a node.js package.
To the creators: you are clearly capable of creating slick marketing (the site looks great!), I'd advise spending some time working on your value proposition. The "Just code / Just branch / Just works" trifecta is pithy, but it doesn't exactly explain what Bowery offers. (Also, having your learn more CTA redirect to the docs -- which start out with how to install Bowery -- is not ideal.)
(Also, as an FYI: the link to 'Philosophy' in the docs is broken.)
Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development
#4It seems like this would yield a really enjoyable workflow. The pricing model (http://bowery.io/pricing/) makes it difficult for me to transfer into an actual monthly price. Seems like that could be remedied with a few scenarios.
Also, one of the things I love about heroku is the free starting point. It really lets me play with an idea without committing to hardly anything. Is there a similar free starting place with bowery?
Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development
#5Unlike most development environments, Bowery requires an internet connection.
And I'm out.
So, this seems like a sort of Google App Engine, but running on Node? BoweryDB and the Cache sound just like what App Engine provides - except that the App Engine also runs on my local dev box.
The problem with this (and the App Engine) is that it's totally locked in. Your database is proprietary, your middleware is proprietary... at least App Engine is backed by Google. What happens when you guys go bust? There's no way I can use a platform like this without knowing I have an open fallback out there somewhere.
Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development
#6I am impressed by how much time I've spent on the site (and still don't understand exactly what it does or why it's worth $40/user/mo.) I am also impressed by how the future of web development is a node.js package. To the creators: you are clearly capable of creating slick marketing (the site looks great!), I'd advise spending some time working on your value proposition. The "Just code / Just branch / Just works" tri…
I think the cool part is that that you could do all of this stuff and not have to worry about any of the infrastructure.
The node package only works inside of the hosting environment. You're paying that much money for everything to be hosted. It says in the docs that there's no local development environment.
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#7I mean, I get the idea behind these platforms without building your own platform services. However, if you actually plan on growing as a company it would seem to me these services have very specific walls in terms of functionality. I've never worked to the company reported that didn't wind up leaning on things like complex SQL queries and other abstractions that these people are telling us we don't need.
I can see how this would work for a limited set of apps that only have simple API needs. Given that, it's perplexing that they would make such ridiculous claims and it's hard to take them seriously. When you just want to run a simple report using a SQL closet and have to tables and uses a fancy GROUP BY, you will be left out in the cold and have to run a gigantic batch job in whatever programming language you use to figure this out. I am not impressed.
Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development
#8It seems like this would yield a really enjoyable workflow. The pricing model ( http://bowery.io/pricing/ ) makes it difficult for me to transfer into an actual monthly price. Seems like that could be remedied with a few scenarios. Also, one of the things I love about heroku is the free starting point. It really lets me play with an idea without committing to hardly anything. Is there a similar free starting place wi…
Hey thanks for checking it out. We're working on a few ways to make the pricing easier to digest.
We've been discussing a free starting point, but haven't solidified anything just yet.
Right now we're bootstrapped. There's only three of us, so the focus so far has been on getting the product in a useable and workable state.
Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development
#9After going through the documentation and your home page, I still have no idea what this product is actually about.
Looks to me like a proprietary web framework nicely integrated with a proprietary database and proprietary cache.
If their DB & cache really are as great at automatic optimisation as they say then I might be interested as stand-alone products to run alongside my current stack; not a great fan of vendor lock-in though, so I think I'll be skipping it for now :(
Re: Bowery – The Next Generation of Web Development
#10I'm not quite sure what it does, but it looks like a framework which integrates your hosting solution?
Also, Is it me or is the pricing ridiculous?
The names great.
I might have misunderstood a lot, it's very unclear and I'm confused. Also if the UI are part of the package, they look too "bootstrappy", if that's a valid complaint.