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Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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cheald wrote: post #320
melling wrote: post #302

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But you are accomplishing absolutely nothing here. Being annoying and ineffective doesn't help your cause. Do you know that Jesus loves you and he wants to save your soul? You might as we'll be discussing religion or politics here. This is not the place. I heard your warning the first ten times.

We're talking about it, aren't we? We haven't forgotten this issue, distracted like children by the latest shiny toy. Even in the face of the things that traditionally kill news stories, we're talking about it. Change starts by making enough people aware of and angry about the issue that the politicians can't afford to support these programs any more. If we're just distracted the next time $TECH_TOY or $NATURAL_DISAS…

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Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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IgorPartola wrote: post #143
drinchev wrote: post #107

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I'm pretty sure, when they jailbreak it the truth will come out. And I doubt Apple would take the risk for lying about that.

Who has the decryption key?

In the ideal world, there is no decryption key. They should use a one-way hash of the encoded fingerprint.

They might want to do approximate matching, though. That could make it hard or impossible to do without the decryption key.

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Post by Cryode »

meerita wrote: post #511
cheald wrote: post #482

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My wife and I have each others' unlock codes because sometimes we get info from each others' phones for one another. "Hey hon, I've got my hands full, can you see if Jane replied to my text yet?" or "Can I use your phone to look up X? Mine's about to die." We don't feel any particular need to check up on each others' communications, though. It's just a practical matter for us.

I have no unlock code, tbh. But my GF does, and I know her key. She told the key like 2000 times, but I forget it :D

Plot twist: her PIN is "2000".

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Post by oleganza »

m_mueller wrote: post #377

I'd like to know whether they're going to use the fingerprint sensor for unlocking the keychain as well. If yes, we could also take advantage of it in app development, no?

It's just like with passcode: you app never has "passcode API", but your keychain items are unlocked when user enters passcode according to the policy you have chosen. Why it should be different when fingerprint is used instead of a passcode?

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Post by anchorsteam »

samstave wrote: post #412
melling wrote: post #302

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But you are accomplishing absolutely nothing here. Being annoying and ineffective doesn't help your cause. Do you know that Jesus loves you and he wants to save your soul? You might as we'll be discussing religion or politics here. This is not the place. I heard your warning the first ten times.

You called discussing the NSA spying on everyone, subverting the American system as well as the faith in the constitution similar to evangelising that Jesus loves you? Wow - that has to be hands down the absolute most ignorant, ridiculous and bullshit comment I have ever read on HN. This is The Best place to be talking about the National Security Agency Technologically spying on everyone, building in parallel infra a…

He did no such thing. Making a passing reference to the NSA whenever remotely possible is not discussion, let alone action. Perhaps we could leave such talk to the submissions that are actually about the NSA? Believe it or not, many of us are already familliar with the topic; as we are of Jesus.

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Post by hadem »

iyulaev wrote: post #529
simonholroyd wrote: post #217

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>> I'm very careful with my fingerprints. What does that even mean? You wear gloves in public all the time? You wipe down everything you touch? Which makes me wonder, aren't one's finger prints all over your iPhone exterior anyway. If someone steals one's phone wouldn't it be easier to dust it for prints than crack the security on the digital copy?

Which makes me wonder, aren't one's finger prints all over your iPhone exterior anyway. If someone steals one's phone wouldn't it be easier to dust it for prints than crack the security on the digital copy? Ding ding ding! We have a winner. Almost as silly as not using a biometric logic because "what if they use a backdoor to get a photo of my face?"

Right but his also assumes that you have physical access to the device! That, and a finger printing kit and time to spare...

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Post by harrisonjackson »

gnaffle wrote: post #419
pilif wrote: post #73

Now that we have to consider the iPhones to be backdoored by the NSA, I wonder whether I really want to give them my fingerprint together with the rest of my data. I'm also not so sure whether a fingerprint can't still be easily faked (like it was possible on that Mythbusters episode for example). Personally, I think I'd rather stay with my passcode. Did you btw know that you can turn off "simple passcode" and then u…

You don't _have_ to. You can root your iPhone and log all packets sent from the phone, and block out any stuff going to Apple (turn off iMessage, iCloud and Siri). For downloading apps etc, you can do that through iTunes and sync your iPhone using a cable.

You might be able to do this through a self hosted VPN too. Just setup your own Great Firewall that won't talk to apple. That way you don't have to root your phone. Not sure how much control you have over which traffic goes over a VPN connection though. And this might block your iMessages haha.

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Post by scholia »

kisielk wrote: post #380
gfodor wrote: post #95

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Serious question -- what is the big deal if someone gets your fingerprints? I can't think of the last time my fingerprint was used as some infallible method of identification, if ever. If the spooks want it, they already have it. I'd rather someone get their hands on my fingerprint than my passport, driver's license, and credit cards, and it seems much more difficult to steal than those things. I think the fingerprin…

Exactly. I've already had to give my fingerprint numerous times at the airport just to enter the United States. I figure the US government must already have it in numerous databases, so it's not a concern if they've backdoored Apple's devices to copy them again.

Same here...

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Post by chaz »

downandout wrote: post #330

I don't have a problem with the fingerprint scanner, since people can choose to use it or not. The larger problem I see for the 5S is a marketing one: while the A7 processor and internal redesign are significant technical achievements, consumers won't understand that or care. They know that their existing iPhone 5's are relatively fast, and that will be enough for most people. They needed to add features - not necess…

The new colors are definitely a feature. One of the "problems" with the 4S was that there was no externally distinguishing feature that you had the latest and the greatest. They fixed that this time around.

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Post by Vitaly »

So, WhereTF is my Thunderbolt Display update? 726 days since the last update according to http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/.

We just moved to an new office in august, and been waiting with buying displays hoping they'll be updated to the new formfactor of iMacs. too bad ... ;( really disappointed.

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