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ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

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Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

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post #100

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I agree and finding great developers is a big part of the challenge. However, there's more to arranging a project then finding the right talent, especially for clients who have expectations for security, domain expertise, and quality assurance. Most platforms simply solve the matchmaking component (eharmony style). The solution is a platform which supports engineers' workflows (git, hg, etc) -- or at least this conti…

once i get someone on the phone, i can tell if they know what they are talking about, i can also assess their social skills - which is extremely important to me. depending on how big the project is, i typically use trello to project management and i've built my own invoicing system. i usually use git labs for private repos. but again, my main concern is whether they can get the project done. for me that comes down to…

That's a really important skill to have -- the ability to assess social skills as well as technical prowess.

I find trello pretty effective for daily goals. In terms of a mature bug tracking system, I'm a fan of phabricator. For invoicing, we use envois (https://github.com/lambdal/envois).

Agreed, communication and expectation alignment are critical components of avoiding "never-ending contract syndrome"

Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

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post #26

I thought this was a great comparison of the popular talent marketplaces, but it skipped over the most important trait: the typical hourly or project rate. All of the services have good workers, but they've also all been participating in a race to the bottom. As a developer, it's hard to ask for more than $100/hr on a site where you're listed alongside those asking for $10/hr. Even if you are 10 times more productive…

This look great. I start my first gig on odesk and I have find very hard to find the kind of work I want.

I submit a request...

Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

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I have accounts on odesk/freelancer and think that is necessary to have a pre-screening of jobs descriptions.

For example, somebody ask for build a "search engine" and have a big budget... but still not clarify enough what mean to him "search engine".

So the only option is apply to the job, and wait for the customer to talk about it.

Then you wait days, weeks and nothing is answered back. Probably the user get scared?

I think that give to potential customers somebody to talk about the project first, to properly describe it (understanding not a full spec, but enough to clarify things in a broad sense) will help a lot.

Also, I wonder why this kind of sites not use their own developers to give this. So when a new customer wanna submit a project it pay, for example, US 50 for talk about it before submit or something like that..

(Like a community-driven-facebook-style-lets-talk-before-submit thing)

Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

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post #86

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We have more customer support agents than any of our competitors- we have over 220 people in our support centre. We also provide support in 10 languages, which no-one else does. If you have a specific issue I will be happy to look into it.

and none of them cares about your customers - LOL! maybe you should get 20 that do care...

The guy is going out of his way in his free time to lend you an ear. I think it's unfair to continue to air your grievances.

Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

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post #86

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and none of them cares about your customers - LOL! maybe you should get 20 that do care...

The guy is going out of his way in his free time to lend you an ear. I think it's unfair to continue to air your grievances.

I don't think I said anything that was unfair. I think they're not really trying to solve the actual problem - instead of accepting the responsibility and trying to fix the issues they're being defensive - who cares about how many support people they have - obviously they're not doing a good job if people are voicing their issues here...

Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

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post #84

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I feel like I shouldn't have to 'jump through hoops' to get my money back - if it's such a non problem why do you even have minimum amounts for withdrawals? talking to your support / dispute resolution team is a waste of time - I felt like they're one of those $1/hr people who just don't care now it's a violation of your ToS but at the time when I described the situation to one of your support guys it was OK... I eve…

Hi SlavD There's no jumping through hoops, but a few things to be aware of. You can't deposit funds through one payment method e.g. credit card, and withdraw funds through another e.g. wire transfer. This is money exchange and we are not allowed to provide this. Refunds are different from withdrawals. Refunds can be for any amount at any time. Withdrawals have a minimum because we have people trying to withdraw $10 v…

well - you guys have all the answers - how good. interestingly enough none of the other websites requires you to file a support case to get their own money back! anyway I did follow your process too and guess what? - nothing - you still have my $7 - but hey don't loose sleep over it - you can keep it (I spend more for breakfast) - there is no chance u're getting any more of my money or anyone I know

Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

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post #15

Bad side is that there are alot of scams and poor programmers, looking to snipe the job and squeeze money from employer in any way possible. From my personal opinion, atleast 80% of bidders do this (I'm working over Freelancer). Good side is that with little hassle, employers can find really great freelancers that know to do their job. Personally, as a programmer from 3rd world country, these sites provide alternativ…

Where are you from?

from Serbia
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