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ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

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Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

#81
post #76

Freelancer.com is a massive SCAM - IMHO 1. you can only withdraw if you have more than $x in funds - I have had $7 left on the site and can't get it back! 2. their conflict resolution is non-existent or biased - a person clearly didn't deliver what I asked for in my job and they simply refused to help me deal with it 3. after I left honest but negative feedback the freelance worker contacted me and tried to bully me…

Hello Slav

In answer to your questions.

1) You can get a refund for any amount in your account. Just contact support.

2) This is incorrect. We have a full dispute resolution team of paralegals.

3-5) Please let me know who this freelancer is by emailing me at matt@freelancer.com. This is a clear violation by them of our Terms of Service.

Regards Matt

Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

#82
post #79

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Hi there, I'm the Chief Executive of Freelancer.com. I've never heard of Ghostery, why is it an issue?

It's an issue because I have Ghostery turned on at all times (www.ghostery.com) and when I visit Freelancer.com and click on either "Hire" or "Work", nothing happens -- the site appears to be broken. I have no idea, of course, of how many people use Ghostery and attempt to visit Freelancer.com, but I would guess the freelancer demography is over-represented in the total population of Ghostery users.

Hi there. I will forward this onto engineering to take a look at.

Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

#83
post #48

vworker (formerly: rentacoder) was great while it lasted. Honest, talented engineers. When they got bought by freelancer, everything became way more scammy. It also became much more difficult to interview potential hires. Lame.

Hi there, if you have any specific feedback, I would be interested to hear it. Email me at matt@freelancer.com.

Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

#84
post #76

Freelancer.com is a massive SCAM - IMHO 1. you can only withdraw if you have more than $x in funds - I have had $7 left on the site and can't get it back! 2. their conflict resolution is non-existent or biased - a person clearly didn't deliver what I asked for in my job and they simply refused to help me deal with it 3. after I left honest but negative feedback the freelance worker contacted me and tried to bully me…

Hello Slav In answer to your questions. 1) You can get a refund for any amount in your account. Just contact support. 2) This is incorrect. We have a full dispute resolution team of paralegals. 3-5) Please let me know who this freelancer is by emailing me at matt@freelancer.com. This is a clear violation by them of our Terms of Service. Regards Matt

I feel like I shouldn't have to 'jump through hoops' to get my money back - if it's such a non problem why do you even have minimum amounts for withdrawals?

talking to your support / dispute resolution team is a waste of time - I felt like they're one of those $1/hr people who just don't care

now it's a violation of your ToS but at the time when I described the situation to one of your support guys it was OK...

I even told him that I'm not happy and that I'm being brushed off - I even mentioned that I'll write about it somewhere - but he didn't care about any of that - he ended our conversation with:

"Thank you for contacting Freelancer.com, please don't hesitate to contact us again if you have any other questions or concerns."

That's just a customer service FAIL at it's best!

I'm glad that the time came and all of that gets described here

It's time for you guys to wake up and stop treating your customers like cattle!

Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

#85
post #37

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I am about to join oDesk as a freelancer. Coming out of college, I have basically limited experience behind me (internships, personal projects). Any advice you have for me about how to grow in the platform?

Any advice you have for me about how to grow in the platform? One piece of advice, and just not about oDesk. Do reasonable work, don't silently miss deadlines, and always set expectation and communicate (never hide). I've worked for some big-name Valley companies. If you just follow the advice above, you will be far ahead of the pack. (And that's even more true in the freelance world.) Good luck.

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Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

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I have noticed that you guys tend to pop up when these thing surface. Perhaps you should dedicate your efforts to better customer service, so you wouldn't see these stories in the first place? As you can see I am far from the only one with a bad experience. Thanks for the offer to look into my case, but I have wasted enough time with it. Keep the 50 dollars. But the price is that I warn everyone that will listen. So,…

We have more customer support agents than any of our competitors- we have over 220 people in our support centre. We also provide support in 10 languages, which no-one else does. If you have a specific issue I will be happy to look into it.

and none of them cares about your customers - LOL! maybe you should get 20 that do care...

Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

#87
post #61

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Matt, All I wanted is to file a feedback. And after paying >$1000, not getting anything back, my project (the one that I started and paid for) was closed by a developer, and I can't even leave a feedback! So, what kind of protections do your customers get?

We ban freelancers who do not provide the service. You can also leave feedback in the form of an "incomplete" report which is a very damaging form of feedback. Normal feedback cannot be left unless the project is paid in full.

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Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

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Hi there, I'm the Chief Executive of Freelancer.com. This is ridiculous. If you have a specific example and can send me your username to matt@freelancer.com, I can get someone to look into your case for you.

I have noticed that you guys tend to pop up when these thing surface. Perhaps you should dedicate your efforts to better customer service, so you wouldn't see these stories in the first place? As you can see I am far from the only one with a bad experience. Thanks for the offer to look into my case, but I have wasted enough time with it. Keep the 50 dollars. But the price is that I warn everyone that will listen. So,…

Your comment accuses Freelancer of theft. You seem to be intent on airing your grievances. You seem to have someone's ear, asking for details. Why not take up the offer?

Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

#89
post #30

This is my experience of oDesk, from someone who has spent 6 figures with them. A few years ago I contracted a developer from the largest agency on oDesk at the time, based in India. This developer had a masters degree, tons of experience, and had a daily rate significantly higher than the average. Things worked out so well that I increased the team to 7 people total from this same company. After about 8 months, the…

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Re: ODesk vs Elance vs Freelancer vs Guru

#90
post #30

This is my experience of oDesk, from someone who has spent 6 figures with them. A few years ago I contracted a developer from the largest agency on oDesk at the time, based in India. This developer had a masters degree, tons of experience, and had a daily rate significantly higher than the average. Things worked out so well that I increased the team to 7 people total from this same company. After about 8 months, the…

Yikes, thats an alarming story. The fact that they were deliberately asking junior developers to impersonate senior developers using the same email addresses etc is a really worrisome practice. I had a situation managing a team for a client a while back where developers suddenly turned awful, and I'm now suspicious this could have been the case. Do you know if this is widespread with other companies?

From my experience working with a major Indian outsourcing company at a previous employer this seems common practice across the board.

In fact the more tolerant managers experienced this transition very quickly and managers that stayed constantly vigilant managed to stave it off for a bit longer; but also not indefinitely.

From my perspective it seemed to be that this extended bait-and-switch was what their business model was built on.

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