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Didn't Get Enough Sleep? You Might As Well Be Drunk

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Re: Didn't Get Enough Sleep? You Might As Well Be Drunk

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(This is mainly unrelated but simply fascinating) I came across an article on this same topic, regarding a man who after being shot in the head could no longer sleep..... and apparently lived (as a fully functioning human being??) for 40 more years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Kern The problem is that I cannot find any scholarly articles that mention him (searched on Google Scholar, do not have access to other…

For a definitive weapon against sleep you could look into modafinil. I haven't tried it because all the shady websites where you can buy it only ship to the US, but apparently it turns off your need for sleep completely with next to no effects of sleep deprivation. But I wouldn't use it to skip more than a night of sleep. Sounds like a bad idea because you do need to sleep. Sleep is good for you.

Just to make sure nobody takes the above as facts and decides modafinil is what they need: basically everything in parent is incorrect, except that sleeping is good for you.

Modafinil does have various side effects, does not allow you to never sleep, and you do have some effects of sleep deprivation if you use it to skip nights. The shady sites that sell it do ship to non-US addresses. Your doctor probably also has it (provigil), if you have narcolepsy.

Re: Didn't Get Enough Sleep? You Might As Well Be Drunk

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>That means that in many cases, a good-but-legally-drunk driver will be vastly out-performing a terrible-but-sober driver. How do you know what percentage of ability corresponds to bad driving?

>How do you know what percentage of ability corresponds to bad driving? It is based on reaction time. So if you approach a stop light that turns red and you have a 70% score, you are taking approximately 30% longer to hit the car brakes.

Good driving is not about reaction time, it's about anticipation. That's why traffic lights have an amber stage.

Re: Didn't Get Enough Sleep? You Might As Well Be Drunk

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post #24

(This is mainly unrelated but simply fascinating) I came across an article on this same topic, regarding a man who after being shot in the head could no longer sleep..... and apparently lived (as a fully functioning human being??) for 40 more years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Kern The problem is that I cannot find any scholarly articles that mention him (searched on Google Scholar, do not have access to other…

For a definitive weapon against sleep you could look into modafinil. I haven't tried it because all the shady websites where you can buy it only ship to the US, but apparently it turns off your need for sleep completely with next to no effects of sleep deprivation. But I wouldn't use it to skip more than a night of sleep. Sounds like a bad idea because you do need to sleep. Sleep is good for you.

Be very careful with modafinil: the side effects can be very severe

"later in the evening she fainted from exhaustion and woke up blind. It took the longest two minutes of all our lives for her eyesight to return fully, and she developed shakes like I’ve never seen, which we couldn’t stop"

“I was mid-conversation and my nose started to bleed uncontrollably, blood was gushing. I completely freaked out”

“Physically, he looked rough, says Charles. He was completely exhausted, his cheeks were pasty and grey, and his body was exhibiting clear signs of sleep deprivation.”

“One friend tried the drug just once, and was plagued by serious, mind numbing headaches. Another couldn’t sleep for two days, despite spending 8 hours in bed per night trying."

Source: http://www.nouse.co.uk/2009/06/30/modafinil-the-new-wonder-d...

Re: Didn't Get Enough Sleep? You Might As Well Be Drunk

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post #66
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a definitive weapon against sleep you could look into modafinil. I haven't tried it because all the shady websites where you can buy it only ship to the US, but apparently it turns off your need for sleep completely with next to no effects of sleep deprivation. But I wouldn't use it to skip more than a night of sleep. Sounds like a bad idea because you do need to sleep. Sleep is good for you.

Be very careful with modafinil: the side effects can be very severe "later in the evening she fainted from exhaustion and woke up blind. It took the longest two minutes of all our lives for her eyesight to return fully, and she developed shakes like I’ve never seen, which we couldn’t stop" “I was mid-conversation and my nose started to bleed uncontrollably, blood was gushing. I completely freaked out” “Physically, he…

Those experiences seem strangely spectacular, they are very different from any experiences I've witnessed or read about. Also, they decided to just use it to skip every nights' sleep? That's not what modafinil is meant for, nor is it capable of replacing sleep in that way.

More people doing dumb shit without having a clue, I guess...

  "With a Friday psychology exam looming, she stayed awake nearly sixty hours,
  sleeping for just four. "
seriously...

Re: Didn't Get Enough Sleep? You Might As Well Be Drunk

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post #48
post #47

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The first time he was tested, he dropped a small amount of weight and the second time he didn't. Neither test was only done by one scientist and the second test was a much larger fanfare with Indian defense/government researchers present. Bathing was also observed as was gargling (what he spit out was also measured). Even so - these "red flags" come from the same scientists that you don't trust. So, they should not s…

Most of the issues with the experiment were identified by other scientists, not the ones involved in the study. That's probably why it was never released in any reputable journal - the study design wouldn't pass peer review. Incidentally, releasing your results to the press before you've published academically is also a fairly reliable warning sign of pseudoscience. When the entire experiment is based around constant…

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Re: Didn't Get Enough Sleep? You Might As Well Be Drunk

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That's the reason ing , but to me it just proves that drunk driving shouldn't be a crime separate from poor driving. (I guess it would be OK as an aggravating factor for other traffic crimes.) Someone who drives acceptably while drunk drives acceptably, period.

I don't know. You can't, unfortunately, stop everyone who drives poorly. Too many people do - and even if they just got off with points on their license, quickly enough they'd be banned and then out of work. Seriously, I can drive for fifteen minutes and see dozens of people who are driving too close together or committing some other sin. All those people who, just going into a corner, you see lighting off their brak…

Too many people do - and even if they just got off with points on their license, quickly enough they'd be banned and then out of work.

In the absence of usable public transit and a populace capable of bicycling, I guess we'll just have to wait for the self-driving cars...

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