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I Asked 1000 Americans to Name a British City Other Than London

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Re: I Asked 1000 Americans to Name a British City Other Than London

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post #65

It's interesting to see Birmingham in 8th place given that it's the 2nd largest city in the United Kingdom. It would be weird if you saw a similar list of American cities and Los Angeles came that far down.

Only Los Angeles can be seen in 70% of the movies playing in any cinema. And it's where those stars live.

What's the equivalent Birmingham has to make it famous? UB40? The Selfridges?

Even Ozzy Osbourne lives in Los Angeles nowadays (I pressume)

Re: I Asked 1000 Americans to Name a British City Other Than London

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post #57

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Or a city in the District of Columbia other than Washington.

They have those?? goes to check Google Maps

They used to -- e.g., Georgetown -- but they long ago merged into Washington.

Re: I Asked 1000 Americans to Name a British City Other Than London

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post #70

Australian comedian John Safran (and all-round crazy person) made a pretty good point about this concept that Americans are uniquely ignorant of geography: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z27xVjXBbk

Well, compared to what Australians? They are similarly insular. A better comparison would be with Europeans. The things he mentions as extremely insightful stuff people wouldn't know, e.g Zaire, Congo, Republic of the Congo, the civil war there, etc are all quite common knowledge.

If there was a way to lay a wager on this, I would bet you a thousand Euros that less than 10% of a randomly-selected sample of Europeans would be able to correctly identify that 1. Zaire changed its name to the Democratic Republic of the Congo, 2. where the DRC is, 3. that it is distinct from the RoC, 4. that there has been a civil war and 5. how many people have died in it.

Re: I Asked 1000 Americans to Name a British City Other Than London

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As a belgian european I often wonder if the United States seems as big to americans as Europe seems big to me. I wonder if it feels different to be a citizen of a small country or a citizen of a continent-wide country such as the United States. Or maybe americans feel they are californians or new-yorkers before being american ?

Citizen of small country adjoining a very large country here. People of small countries tend to understand that other cultures exist, because when they travel a couple of hundred miles (or less) in any direction they're in another country. I suppose for people living in the central regions of a very large country, it's your country and your people in every direction for as far as you can imagine. Then you tend not to…

As an American in a relatively small Midwestern city, I think that's pretty much it.

I'm interested in what happens elsewhere in the world, but it feels impossibly far away, and ultimately it doesn't affect me here (at least not directly). Whenever I've checked, a roundtrip ticket anywhere out of the country has cost about $2000 and it takes a full day to get there. Then you're jet lagged. So, short vacations are out of the question. But it also takes me a full year of work to earn just 2 weeks vacation time, assuming I don't use any for special occasions. I didn't even bother getting a passport until two years ago, and I still haven't used it.

So yeah, even if an American desperately wants to travel somewhere out of the country, it's expensive and vacation time is scarce. So most never will. And at that point, knowing a list of English cities is purely trivia.

Re: I Asked 1000 Americans to Name a British City Other Than London

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post #6

Not sure how Manchester could be beloved of anyone.

as a foreigner: The Smiths, Joy Division (and then New Order), the Stone Roses, the Happy Mondays.

Well, you gotta love Mozzer. Is the rules.

Re: I Asked 1000 Americans to Name a British City Other Than London

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post #68
post #66

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I just tend to tune out whatever is on the sidebar of a website as it tends to be ads or other things I probably don't care enough to read. As for the "by Stacy", well it is rather small and gray. Of course I have a feeling the poster of the comment that sparked this little flame-war didn't read the article.

defending a sexist assumption by claiming a lack of attention to detail and an unwillingness to read the whole pages feels sub-optimal.

Again, I don't really see using "he" as sexist. It's just the English language.

From Merriam-Webster:

1: prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially : discrimination against women

2: behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex

I can understand an argument that the author of the comment said "he" because of some assumption that anyone doing stats must be a man. However I'm making the counterargument that using "he" is a standard default in English and that such usage is not sexist, but rather as a result of how the English language is used.

Re: I Asked 1000 Americans to Name a British City Other Than London

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post #76
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

defending a sexist assumption by claiming a lack of attention to detail and an unwillingness to read the whole pages feels sub-optimal.

Again, I don't really see using "he" as sexist. It's just the English language. From Merriam-Webster: 1: prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially : discrimination against women 2: behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex I can understand an argument that the author of the comment said "he" because of some assumption that anyone doing stats must be a man. Howe…

That's an astoundingly crap argument.

You are saying that using he as a default isn't sexist because it is a default.

However saying that a default position is a default position tells us very little indeed and nothing whatsoever about if that default position is sexist.

Re: I Asked 1000 Americans to Name a British City Other Than London

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post #76
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

defending a sexist assumption by claiming a lack of attention to detail and an unwillingness to read the whole pages feels sub-optimal.

Again, I don't really see using "he" as sexist. It's just the English language. From Merriam-Webster: 1: prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially : discrimination against women 2: behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex I can understand an argument that the author of the comment said "he" because of some assumption that anyone doing stats must be a man. Howe…

If you see "he" everywhere, you assume being a man is the standard, and being a woman is somehow not applicable. This is a subtle affect that, if applied to everything, will change your perspective on the world.

And it's not that hard to just use "they" instead.

Re: I Asked 1000 Americans to Name a British City Other Than London

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, I don't really see using "he" as sexist. It's just the English language. From Merriam-Webster: 1: prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially : discrimination against women 2: behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex I can understand an argument that the author of the comment said "he" because of some assumption that anyone doing stats must be a man. Howe…

That's an astoundingly crap argument. You are saying that using he as a default isn't sexist because it is a default. However saying that a default position is a default position tells us very little indeed and nothing whatsoever about if that default position is sexist.

Perhaps we're coming at the situation from different viewpoints. You appear to be judging the situation based off of how "he" came to be a default while I'm coming at the situation from the viewpoint of intentions.

Honestly, I caught myself using "he" several times writing this response but went back and "refactored" my response. Does the fact that I use "he" automatically make me a sexist? No. That's just how everyone around me spoke English and thus how I learned to use it.

Re: I Asked 1000 Americans to Name a British City Other Than London

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post #47
post #17

You can cheat at this if you watch a lot of TopGear like I do.

I've watched all eps of TG, but I don't recall them mentioning city names too often.

I've watched all eps of TG

You poor thing. Help is available if you only just ask.

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