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Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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Motorola and now Nokia, the last of the previous era big wigs have fallen. 13 years ago Lucent, Motorola, Ericsson, Sun, Nortel were huge. Now they are all gone. Even HP, Dell are no longer leading. That is a really short time span for a company to be on top of the world and disappear. Is this the expected life span of a tech company?

Nokia started in 1865 as a pulp mill and paper manufacturer.

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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Great move by Microsoft. This is an acquisition that arguably puts Microsoft mobile capabilities above that of Google's, and closest to Apple's. They're getting industry veterans with great design talent. They're getting a Lumia product that has the best build quality of any non-Apple smart phone. They're acquiring proven channels to access global markets. Both Nokia and Microsoft have been floundering in the mobile…

This is an acquisition that arguably puts Microsoft mobile capabilities above that of Google's, and closest to Apple's. To have this loltastic sentence at the top of hn makes me wonder if MS or some PR has a bunch of shill accounts they roll out for occasions like this. Seriously? As the other reply said, they were already together. And losing. Badly. And hated, broadly. And the reason the windows phone sucks so badl…

I agree with you. I used to have a Nokia N900 and that thing was amazing. They abandoned it and switched to a crappy windows based OS which can't do half as many things as the N900 could and also had the potential to. I think they should have continued developing their Maemo OS, it was the best phone OS I ever used.

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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I hope Ballmer and Gates have a dedicated CEO in mind now that Ballmer's leaving... very few people will be able to lead a company this large, and it will be quite a tragedy if Microsoft's reputation declines and takes down Nokia with it.

I heard a rumor that Paul Graham is being courted, but it is probably disinformation.

Haha good lord no. I doubt either party would be in any way interested.

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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> People were saying this a decade ago about the Xbox remember. The Xbox was a failure. The Xbox 360 was better executed than the more ambitious PS3. It succeeded while the PS3 did not do so well, yet the PS3 is far from being a failure. > Microsoft only decided to compete just over two years ago You are ignoring the decade+ behind WindowsCE and Windows Mobile. Microsoft has always been a player in this market.

> You are ignoring the decade+ behind WindowsCE and Windows Mobile. Microsoft has always been a player in this market. It was a very different market that Windows Mobile competed in. A market that emphasized physical keyboards, rather than touchscreens. A market with $200 device subsidies, rather than $400 smartphone subsidies. That market disappeared, and so did Windows Mobile's chances. In fact, every major product…

A lot of the financial world runs on Excel spreadsheets and VB macros. Its scary, but I wouldn't say they have failed horribly at the spreadsheet market.

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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> According to your logic, two bricks tied together float better than one. A sail doesn't float and a hull doesn't move, but together they can make great boats

They're already making great boats, but nobody's* buying them. * For nominal values of 'nobody'.

I think your definition of nobody is very narrow. Wp8 is the second best seller platform in Latinamerica.

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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I take it you have never used a Windows Phone. The Lumia's Nokia make are well designed and high quality, WP8 isn't that bad at all and will undoubtedly get better in the future. Everyone I've met with a WP device (Which is a lot, a fair percentage of my coursemates own one) is happy with it. And so to escape MS will have to back out of their deal entirely, go back to designing phones and PC OSes separately, and give…

I bought a Lumia 800 as my first smartphone and I'm not quite happy with it. - It lost at least 60% of its value in less than a year (price for a new one dropped by that much) - MS wants me to pay them if I want to build an app to use on my own phone - And after I've paid them I can only put three apps that aren't published on there. If I publish them in the app store and would like to use them myself I have to buy m…

1) Somebody already told you this, only iDevices hold the value, everything else would value peanuts after a couple of months. 2) This happens with Apple too. 3) I don't have that problem, did you check that? Maybe is a problem in your end. 4) My 1 years old LG android 2.3 got stuck with that version for good. On the other hand, WP8 doesn't even have a year.

I had been used 4 platform (ios, android, BB and WP7 & 8) And my Lumia 920 is my all time favorite smartphone and it is a pleasure to develop for it in comparison with Android and iOS. So I guess is a matter of taste

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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Then maybe you should recalibrate your expectation of what a comment is supposed to say a little bit, as any comment in support of some company's products is going to 'look a lot like what an astroturfer would say'. Astroturfing is only one of many possible motives for a comment being left. We should not be so quick to jump on that as an explanation for anything which doesn't agree with our notions.

> maybe you should recalibrate your expectation of what a comment is supposed to say Please refer to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6320222 for the reasons I found kyro's comment very PR-like. I expect, and will remain expecting, HN comments to be based on reality.

The only reality that is acceptable on HN is that Google is unstoppable and benevolent to geeks. An optimistic view of their competitors counts as shilling.

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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I'd say Blackberry is the big loser in this deal, since it probably takes one of their more plausible options off the table.

RIM's two selling points still seem as relevant as they did last week for MS: patents and the loyal but shrinking customer base.

I'm just guessing that MS would probably want to digest one phone manufacturer before immediately buying another. Integrating one team is more than hard enough.

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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> You are ignoring the decade+ behind WindowsCE and Windows Mobile. Microsoft has always been a player in this market. It was a very different market that Windows Mobile competed in. A market that emphasized physical keyboards, rather than touchscreens. A market with $200 device subsidies, rather than $400 smartphone subsidies. That market disappeared, and so did Windows Mobile's chances. In fact, every major product…

A lot of the financial world runs on Excel spreadsheets and VB macros. Its scary, but I wouldn't say they have failed horribly at the spreadsheet market.

If you read my comment, you will see that I was talking about Microsoft's failed spreadsheet, Multiplan. Not Microsoft's successful spreadsheet, Excel.

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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This is an acquisition that arguably puts Microsoft mobile capabilities above that of Google's, and closest to Apple's. To have this loltastic sentence at the top of hn makes me wonder if MS or some PR has a bunch of shill accounts they roll out for occasions like this. Seriously? As the other reply said, they were already together. And losing. Badly. And hated, broadly. And the reason the windows phone sucks so badl…

I agree with you. I used to have a Nokia N900 and that thing was amazing. They abandoned it and switched to a crappy windows based OS which can't do half as many things as the N900 could and also had the potential to. I think they should have continued developing their Maemo OS, it was the best phone OS I ever used.

By potential what do you mean? To me anything that isn't too broken by design has potential and certainly WP8 isn't broken by design. I'm wondering if you are talking about ecosystem-related potential or something more technical.

I agree with another commenter.. Microsoft about a hardware company that already used its own software. No brainer.

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