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Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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Post by count »

kyro wrote: post #31
Shamanmuni wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they were together already. This past time Nokia only developed Windows phones and Microsoft paid for the marketing of the Lumia. Nokia had Stephen Elop as CEO, for crying out loud. We already knew Nokia was a part of Microsoft. This is not a move, just a formality; the low price gives you another hint. If the partnership Microsoft-Nokia could have changed their positions in the mobile sector, it would have happe…

It's more than that. Microsoft is acquiring the Lumia brand. This gives them the ability to bundle both hardware and software to create one simple, cohesive experience. They will no longer be pushing the Nokia Lumia with Windows Phone 8, but The Microsoft Phone. And they can now brag about how they are the smartphone with the best camera. From a marketing perspective, this makes lots of sense. Lots of that is specula…

I wonder if such bundling will be an issue with their existing anti-trust issues?

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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Post by sanxiyn »

taspeotis wrote: post #8
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Well from a bit of Googling it would seem that Samsung has a market capitalisation of ~USD$120B vs. Nokia's ~USD$14B. I'm unsure of what % of Samsung is mobile devices, but one would assume Google would have to throw a lot more money at Samsung to buy their devices division than MS is spending to buy Nokia (according to their press release: USD$7.17B)

> I'm unsure of what % of Samsung is mobile devices

Samsung Electronics is a public company, and this information is public.

For Q2 2013, mobile devices accounted for 60% of sales and 66% of operating profit.

http://www.samsung.com/us/aboutsamsung/ir/ireventpresentatio...

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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Post by test001only »

What would this mean for all the Nokia feature phones ? The latest Asha series was very good and selling pretty well at least in India. How would this figure in MS strategy? Are they going to ditch it? That would be sad, because Nokia still makes phones that can withstand rough use. On the other side would Nokia start manufacturing Laptop in future. I would really like Nokia design team to come up with a good Windows laptop!

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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Post by simula67 »

Slightly off-topic : For hackers outside the USA/EU I think Microsoft succeeding can be a bad thing since Macs are really expensive here and Microsoft silently allowing piracy means that everyone uses Windows. I feel that ISVs better supporting Linux would be a nice thing and one of the important things to happen for that is for Windows to loose its monopoly ( second is of course some sort of agreement between all Linux distros around some standard ). I can't but feel that is to be a distant dream, since Microsoft seems to have infinite pockets and can buy their way out of any trouble for years to come.

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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Post by yalogin »

Motorola and now Nokia, the last of the previous era big wigs have fallen. 13 years ago Lucent, Motorola, Ericsson, Sun, Nortel were huge. Now they are all gone. Even HP, Dell are no longer leading. That is a really short time span for a company to be on top of the world and disappear. Is this the expected life span of a tech company?

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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Post by dangrossman »

count wrote: post #41
kyro wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's more than that. Microsoft is acquiring the Lumia brand. This gives them the ability to bundle both hardware and software to create one simple, cohesive experience. They will no longer be pushing the Nokia Lumia with Windows Phone 8, but The Microsoft Phone. And they can now brag about how they are the smartphone with the best camera. From a marketing perspective, this makes lots of sense. Lots of that is specula…

I wonder if such bundling will be an issue with their existing anti-trust issues?

Microsoft hasn't had real anti-trust issues in a while. Windows 8 did lots of things they wouldn't have gotten away with 15 years ago; nobody's going after them because they don't really wield the monopoly power they once did.

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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Post by apike »

test001only wrote: post #43

What would this mean for all the Nokia feature phones ? The latest Asha series was very good and selling pretty well at least in India. How would this figure in MS strategy? Are they going to ditch it? That would be sad, because Nokia still makes phones that can withstand rough use. On the other side would Nokia start manufacturing Laptop in future. I would really like Nokia design team to come up with a good Windows…

One of Microsoft's documents about the acquisition calls out that it is getting the Asha brand and a 10-year license to the Nokia brand for feature phones, so I expect that line will stay for now.

Re: Microsoft to acquire Nokia

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Post by devx »

Seems like Elop stayed true to his nickname - of a trojan horse. He never really worked for Nokia. He's been working for Microsoft the whole time, just to sell it for this low price.

How the hell are the shareholders okay with this? I'm shocked it sold for under $10 billion. Nokia's total valuation is about 15 billion, and you'd have to imagine they'd have to pay a 30 percent premium when buying it, so that's $20 billion for the whole. I assume the devices division was worth at least half of that. Didn't Nokia already sell the telecom part?

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