[deleted]
> The Indians have India.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_India
> "Not enough black folks, no black community" (aka "I want to be with my own kind")
Cool anecdote.
Map of America's Racial Segregation
181–190 of 192 posts
Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation
#182I watched once a lecture on Coursera about Schelling's model of segregation, which I found extremely insightful. If you see maps like that with strong segregation, one of the first attempts to explain it is "racism". However, if you divide your neighborhood in 9 blocks such that you are in the center, you have 8 neighbors. Schelling's model now shows that even in cities where most people say:"I'd like to live next to…
> I'd accept 60% of neighbors who are different from me
How is that not racism? Why do you care if your neighbor is a different race than you? Isn't it more relevant whether they're someone you'd enjoy living near?
Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You can argue about whether this is racism or classism. Or it could just be avoiding high-crime areas. Given the vastly different propensities of people of various races to commit crime, avoiding crime tends to make you look racist[1] [1] http://www.ronunz.org/2013/07/20/race-and-crime-in-america/
You can still argue your assertion further: you seem to be declaring that race (and not class) is the driver for crime. Race and class (in America) are strongly linked that when a person declares one thing (and not the other) as the cause, it tells you a lot about the person.
It looks to me like race matters more than class. Poor whites and hispanics don't commit nearly as much crime as black citizens, even though they are numerically greater. 6% of the US population (black males) commits 53% of the murder, more than the other 94% of the population combined.
There is something uniquely wrong in the black American community. Whites who notice it are called "racist". Blacks who notice it (like Bill Cosby) are called race-traitors or Uncle Toms. So nobody much cares about addressing anti-social behavior, because it simply cannot be discussed.
Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation
#184[deleted]
> The Indians have India. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_India > "Not enough black folks, no black community" (aka "I want to be with my own kind") Cool anecdote.
http://www.livescience.com/20663-black-white-segregated-neig...
Good day to you sir.
Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
You hypothesize that the American black population is suffering because their African culture has been taken away from them. I'm merely pointing out that African culture doesn't seem to have built many thriving populations anywhere. American black culture wasn't nearly so dysfunctional before the rise of the welfare state and the War on Drugs. Illegitimacy was under 30% in 1960 (compared to about 80% today). That has…
I'm looking at your link, its related links and your comment history. I think I see where it's all going..... I simply say that it's a combination of identity loss and racism. The War on Drugs, particularly weed, was pretty much started purely because of greed & racism. http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal... When alcohol was attempted to be made illegal, too many white people got mad so that…
Bad luck just seems to follow some people for centuries.
It occurs to me that you could write a similar story of woe for the Chinese who have gone through a rough century or three, and they are the highest earning ethnic group in the USA. It makes one think.
Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reminds me of a similar thing in developmental biology, where if you have two populations of cells, each having a slighly higher affinity for other cells of its own type, then they will very efficiently sort themselves into separate compartments. This is thought to be a pretty important mechanism in the formation and maintenance of structures in the body. In case anyone's interested, here is a nice (if now rather old…
Why do you say that scientific writing was better in the '90s? I'm just curious, not challenging your claim.
Back when i used to read a lot of papers, i found that i enjoyed the ones from the 90s more. I think the further you go back in time, the more honest and open scientists were in their writing; as time has gone on and academia has become more crowded and competitive, the more papers read like marketing. Authors writing in the 80s would happily admit that there were things they didn't know or hadn't proven; to do that now would be a sign of weakness.
I remember a paper from the 80s, the first one reporting the localisation of some cytoskeletal protein, vinculin or talin or something, where the authors present a set of microscope images showing that the protein is found exclusively at the ends of stress fibres (the main structural members of many kinds of cell). Great finding! And then they show a picture of a cell where it isn't, and is instead assembled into lots of little rings. The caption says that they have no idea what kind of cell it is, or why it's doing that. I just can't imagine that happening today.
In this case, this is a review paper, so that doesn't directly apply. But i think the ethos still pervades the writing; the authors are writing to explain what's known, not to advance some hypothesis or demonstrate how much they know.
Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation
#187That's hilarious, I was wondering if my hometown (ATL) would be broken down, and it's the second one. When I moved back there after college I wanted to do some sort of study of the racial segregation in that city. It's totally along that east-west axis, more precisely at Ponce De Leon Ave. All these upper-class streets that run through the nicest neighborhoods in north Atlanta even change their names as they cross ov…
Also from Atlanta here and I'm always most aware of this when riding MARTA to the airport. Once you get south of downtown, it becomes hard to ignore the strange fact that the only white people still on the train are those with luggage. And in case it consoles you to know that others are living your dreams, I just had two donuts at the Krispy Kreme on Ponce earlier this morning -- in fact right around the time of your…
Aww man. I used to live right around the corner on 3rd street. I don't know if midtown is still as colorful these days, but about ten years ago if you saw an attractive female walking around after dark you could rest assured it was a man. Rural Jersey is slightly less exciting..
Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation
#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Riding the subway means that as a white New Yorker, you will twice a day share a room with a black person. Whether you interact with them is another story - I'd venture that most people never say a word to anyone in the subway. To understand (likelihood of) interaction, neighborhood maps are one piece of the story, as would be (as mentioned elsewhere in the thread) workplace data.
I hardly talk to my neighbors too. I do most talking with my friends and coworkers.
But you are also likely to live in the same neighborhood as your friends. So while living in a racially diverse neighborhood may not cause you to interact with people of other other races, it may be indicative if your group of friends is racially diverse.
Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
> (40% like me) yeah... you know, the definition of racism is when you even take those categories as a differentiation attribute in people. So, it's racism after all. If you'd say singles vs big families. rich vs poor. etc. it would be personal preference. The things you listed, racism.
If that's racism, then it is a lot less virulent of a thing than we normally think of. Almost everybody in the world has some sort of affinity for their own cultural group, practices and norms. Maybe we should develop another term for active inter-racial hatred?
But it's still racism :)
you are thinking of hate-crime.
Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm looking at your link, its related links and your comment history. I think I see where it's all going..... I simply say that it's a combination of identity loss and racism. The War on Drugs, particularly weed, was pretty much started purely because of greed & racism. http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal... When alcohol was attempted to be made illegal, too many white people got mad so that…
Bad luck just seems to follow some people for centuries. It occurs to me that you could write a similar story of woe for the Chinese who have gone through a rough century or three, and they are the highest earning ethnic group in the USA. It makes one think.
> It makes one think.
No it doesn't. The Chinese were taken from their country, stripped of their culture, made slaves and to this day the main target of racism in America? And their home country is trapped in a pattern of greed & corruption for natural resources?
You and I both know what conclusion you're trying to force without actually saying it. Same thing FOX News does. You're talking exactly like the kind of media that's being described by this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQnxnYEVp4U