Apple can go suck a lemon.
Do we really need that kind of comments here on HN?
YES! We need!
Apple seeks to trademark “startup” in Australia
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Re: Apple seeks to trademark “startup” in Australia
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please don't say Linux.
Say one thing OS X does objectively better than Linux. I honestly can't think of any.
I don't know the current state of high density display support in X11 (and I may just be an ignorant user and plain old wrong about this), but it was a totally broken deal breaker for me a year ago.
Re: Apple seeks to trademark “startup” in Australia
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#25Trademarks are not global variables. They are scoped.
In trademark law these are called "classes".
If I have a trademark for McDonalds that covers navigation equipment, then the hamburger company can't sue me using their trademark which covers hamburgers. The coverage is scoped.
Now!
Observe the list of classes -- 37, 38, 41 and 42.
Apple is essentially registering "startup" to cover devices, their maintenance, development and training.
Not all uses of "startup" ever. Just those uses attached to what Apple produces.
Re: Apple seeks to trademark “startup” in Australia
#26Apple can go suck a lemon.
Do we really need that kind of comments here on HN?
Re: Apple seeks to trademark “startup” in Australia
#27I think it's important to stress that trademarks are not copyrights or patents: assuming Apple's trademark application goes through, the protection on the mark is good only for the goods and services they specified in the application (edit: with a caveat mentioned by grabeh elsewhere[1]):
> Retail store services featuring computers, computer software, computer peripherals, mobile phones, and consumer electronic devices, and demonstration of products relating thereto
Based on that, this looks to be a new retail service they plan on offering called "Startup".
Edit:
Also note that in 2011, Apple already applied for the Startup trademark in the US and China with the same international registration number: http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2011/04/apple-fi...
As far as I can tell from the action on the trademark application[2], it was granted a preliminary trademark (which is standard practice) and was opened up to objections: at least one was raised, and the USPTO has now passed it to Apple to respond. It looks like they have until September 20th to do so[3].
[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6288395
[2]: http://www.trademarkia.com/startup-85296886.html
[3]: http://trademarks.justia.com/852/96/startup-85296886.html
Re: Apple seeks to trademark “startup” in Australia
#28we'll just start calling it "startdown" we're in australia afterall.
I was thinking "startupside-down".
This news is right up there with the big tech companies trying to grab .book, .search, etc
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please don't say Linux.
Say one thing OS X does objectively better than Linux. I honestly can't think of any.
Chinese language fonts (especially when mixed with English fonts) and input methods. And I don't just mean the default fonts the OS comes with (those these are better on OSX by a wide margin), but the way font selection and fallback works for GUI elements that contain a mix of Chinese/English.
Also switching the system language on the fly.