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> UK officials are considering banning the sale of small mobile phones designed to resemble car key fobs. Prisoner with a phone-shaped object: suspicious. Prisoner with car keys: not suspicious?
Person taking car keys into the visiting room: not suspicious.
Wouldn't it make more sense to make prisons mobile signal dead-zones?
Yeah or just track all calls from inside the prison and build a map of who the criminals are talking to good source of intel. SOCA obviously needs to get away from the cop on the beat mentality and think outside the box. And stoping the rip of charges for inmates using the legitimate phone inside the prisons would stop the use of phone cards as an internal currency.
Totally ridiculous and not justifiable. Just install jammers at the jails. The real reason for a ban must be elsewhere.
Woulds you use your smuggled phone if you knew the signal was going straight through the warden's cell tower?
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I'm curious about two things. Firstly, how do you charge a phone? I wouldn't have thought cells had plug points. Secondly, is there any realistic way of stopping phones getting in? Building higher fences, and putting sensors on them, sounds like one way of stopping throwovers for example. T
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Wouldn't it make more sense to make prisons mobile signal dead-zones?
It's a tricky one, legally running jammers in the UK is a no-no on the books ( http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/enforcement/spectrum-enforc... ), however I'm not sure whether there's an exemption clause for prisons, or whether you can apply for a license for a jammer for specific circumstances.
I've been to jail in the UK. I served 4.5 months in B and C category prisons. Phones are so easy to get hold of, I don't think most people would believe it. During my time I emailed photos from inside the prison to friends outside using a smartphone. Approx. every other prisoner had a phone, and everyone had access. They were so popular that I was able to keep myself safe (i.e. useful) by offering a phone unlocking s…
I'm curious about two things. Firstly, how do you charge a phone? I wouldn't have thought cells had plug points. Secondly, is there any realistic way of stopping phones getting in? Building higher fences, and putting sensors on them, sounds like one way of stopping throwovers for example. T
It's a down to earth practical guide aimed at someone who hasn't been to prison before. The ToC features such chapters as Sharing A Cell, Violence, Getting Stuff Done (Complaints and Applications and so on. Smoking teabags, making toast using the radiator, cooking noodles in the kettle, making rope out of sheets to pass things between cells, flash-distilling vodka using ice cubes and a live 240v mains cable, it's all in there.
I highly recommend it to anyone who has ever wondered what prison really involves, day to day, from a prisoners point of view. Or anyone really. It's a fascinating document, very much DIY, reads a bit like a txtfile from back in the day.
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I'm curious about two things. Firstly, how do you charge a phone? I wouldn't have thought cells had plug points. Secondly, is there any realistic way of stopping phones getting in? Building higher fences, and putting sensors on them, sounds like one way of stopping throwovers for example. T
Cells in UK jails are not barren concrete-and-metal things like in the movies. They have a sink, a desk, a kettle, a TV, a (usually padded) chair and a bed. You charge your phone by plugging it in :). Another fact many people don't know is that you can buy things, legally, in prison. By things, I mean pretty much anything in the Argos catalogue. You get an allowance of £10/week which you can save up (you have to earn…
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It's a tricky one, legally running jammers in the UK is a no-no on the books ( http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/enforcement/spectrum-enforc... ), however I'm not sure whether there's an exemption clause for prisons, or whether you can apply for a license for a jammer for specific circumstances.
So if jammers are out of the question, what about detectors?
Banning tiny phones is stupid. These people have already shown that they don't care about the law - that's why they're in jail[1] and having a cell phone in prison is already not legal. What's it going to be now? Double plus unlegal? Surely faraday cages and cell-phone jamming would be easier and less restrictive for regular people. (The BBC article says they're changing legislation to allow them to block signals in…
While I agree banning small cellphones is useless, I don't care for this generalization. Not everyone in jail has a blatant disregard for law. For some it was just a moment of desperation, for some it was for some silly reason like weed, some may just be young people making mistakes and had the misfortune of being one of the few actually caught, some may not have even known they were breaking a law and some don't deserve to be there at all.
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I'm curious about two things. Firstly, how do you charge a phone? I wouldn't have thought cells had plug points. Secondly, is there any realistic way of stopping phones getting in? Building higher fences, and putting sensors on them, sounds like one way of stopping throwovers for example. T
If you want to know what life in a UK prison is actually like, read this ebook, HMP - A Survival Guide http://issuu.com/prisonism/docs/hmp_a_survival_guide It's a down to earth practical guide aimed at someone who hasn't been to prison before. The ToC features such chapters as Sharing A Cell, Violence, Getting Stuff Done (Complaints and Applications and so on. Smoking teabags, making toast using the radiator, cooking…