> UK officials are considering banning the sale of small mobile phones designed to resemble car key fobs. Prisoner with a phone-shaped object: suspicious. Prisoner with car keys: not suspicious?
Prisoner with car keys: not useful. Prisoner with a phone: useful.
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#22Wouldn't it make more sense to make prisons mobile signal dead-zones?
I believe there was an issue with guards needing to be able to use their mobile phones in an emergency. The majority of the Prison service use TETRA radios now which can be linked in to the rest of the UK mainland emergency services so it shouldn't be an issue but there seemed to be a lot of reluctance so that there was a backup in the event everything else failed.
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#23I've been to jail in the UK. I served 4.5 months in B and C category prisons. Phones are so easy to get hold of, I don't think most people would believe it. During my time I emailed photos from inside the prison to friends outside using a smartphone. Approx. every other prisoner had a phone, and everyone had access. They were so popular that I was able to keep myself safe (i.e. useful) by offering a phone unlocking s…
Firstly, how do you charge a phone? I wouldn't have thought cells had plug points.
Secondly, is there any realistic way of stopping phones getting in? Building higher fences, and putting sensors on them, sounds like one way of stopping throwovers for example.
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#24I've been to jail in the UK. I served 4.5 months in B and C category prisons. Phones are so easy to get hold of, I don't think most people would believe it. During my time I emailed photos from inside the prison to friends outside using a smartphone. Approx. every other prisoner had a phone, and everyone had access. They were so popular that I was able to keep myself safe (i.e. useful) by offering a phone unlocking s…
I'm curious about two things. Firstly, how do you charge a phone? I wouldn't have thought cells had plug points. Secondly, is there any realistic way of stopping phones getting in? Building higher fences, and putting sensors on them, sounds like one way of stopping throwovers for example. T
Another fact many people don't know is that you can buy things, legally, in prison. By things, I mean pretty much anything in the Argos catalogue. You get an allowance of £10/week which you can save up (you have to earn it or have it sent in - it's not free). Some people had playstation 2s. Lots of people had stereo systems.
Many of the phones came without chargers, but people were very good at reworking electronics. I saw one system where someone had rewired the inside of his casette player to have two contacts so he could slot in his phone battery and it would charge when he pressed play, in a nicely hidden compartment.
I think there's not really any way of preventing smuggling. Like all systems of oppression, prisons stimulate peoples desire for freedom. When you have 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year to think about a way to smuggle something in, and then you have 10k people in a prison, and people get transferred between prisons... eventually someone will come up with a way, and it will spread fast.
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I'm curious about two things. Firstly, how do you charge a phone? I wouldn't have thought cells had plug points. Secondly, is there any realistic way of stopping phones getting in? Building higher fences, and putting sensors on them, sounds like one way of stopping throwovers for example. T
Cells in UK jails are not barren concrete-and-metal things like in the movies. They have a sink, a desk, a kettle, a TV, a (usually padded) chair and a bed. You charge your phone by plugging it in :). Another fact many people don't know is that you can buy things, legally, in prison. By things, I mean pretty much anything in the Argos catalogue. You get an allowance of £10/week which you can save up (you have to earn…
Having thought about it, hand cranked and solar chargers are fairly cheap and small.
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#27Totally ridiculous and not justifiable. Just install jammers at the jails. The real reason for a ban must be elsewhere.
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#28I've been to jail in the UK. I served 4.5 months in B and C category prisons. Phones are so easy to get hold of, I don't think most people would believe it. During my time I emailed photos from inside the prison to friends outside using a smartphone. Approx. every other prisoner had a phone, and everyone had access. They were so popular that I was able to keep myself safe (i.e. useful) by offering a phone unlocking s…
I'm curious about two things. Firstly, how do you charge a phone? I wouldn't have thought cells had plug points. Secondly, is there any realistic way of stopping phones getting in? Building higher fences, and putting sensors on them, sounds like one way of stopping throwovers for example. T
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Prisoner with car keys: not useful. Prisoner with a phone: useful.
You can stab people with keys. I have a VW flick key. Sharpen it up, and its a great little weapon.
I think the idea was to make it easier to notice them, as parent suggested.