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Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Post by michaelt »

nissimk wrote: post #22
rlpb wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then, presumably, it wouldn't be any different from other phones that exist on the market already, which completely defeats the point. This project is for better phone hardware, not just "Ubuntu on a phone" for which you can already run the development preview on existing phones.

But I agree with gregpilling. Why did they have to add all of those untested features to the spec. Is sapphire glass really better or is it just a fancy sounding gimmick? And what's up with "Silicon-anode Li-ion?" More RAM sounded good to me and the whole ubuntu in your pocket thing also sounds great, but premium pricing and new hardware technologies that are unproven worry me.

Presumably there were certain feature requirements for it to work as an effective desktop computer that are missing on many smart phones.

I mean, the early adopters paying for the Edge are probably have desktops with quad-core 1GHz+ processors, 2GB+ of RAM, 100GB+ of hard disk space, connector and graphics card for a WSXGA+ resolution monitor, USB host capability and so on. My smart phone has none of these features.

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Post by zalew »

jherdman wrote: post #40
Mustafabei wrote: post #35

Considering ALL of the contribution packages with limits are claimed in the remaining hours, which would be: 3920000$ + 420000$ = 4340000$, for the funding to succeed; 15422386$ worth of other contributions have to also be made. That is: 771119,3 Founder or, 514079,5 Forgot International Shipping :) or, 308447,4 Founder With Style or, more reasonably; 22190 Ubuntu Edge or, 2203 Enterprise Starter Kit contributions in…

Unrelated question, but where are you from? I've not seen anyone write numbers quite like this before. It's sort of french, but sort of not...

he probably copypasted it from a spreadsheet/calculator that just rounded the decimal.

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Post by xiaq »

jherdman wrote: post #40
Mustafabei wrote: post #35

Considering ALL of the contribution packages with limits are claimed in the remaining hours, which would be: 3920000$ + 420000$ = 4340000$, for the funding to succeed; 15422386$ worth of other contributions have to also be made. That is: 771119,3 Founder or, 514079,5 Forgot International Shipping :) or, 308447,4 Founder With Style or, more reasonably; 22190 Ubuntu Edge or, 2203 Enterprise Starter Kit contributions in…

Unrelated question, but where are you from? I've not seen anyone write numbers quite like this before. It's sort of french, but sort of not...

Quite some countries use commas as decimal marks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark#Countries_using_Ar...

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Post by mehwoot »

nissimk wrote: post #22
rlpb wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then, presumably, it wouldn't be any different from other phones that exist on the market already, which completely defeats the point. This project is for better phone hardware, not just "Ubuntu on a phone" for which you can already run the development preview on existing phones.

But I agree with gregpilling. Why did they have to add all of those untested features to the spec. Is sapphire glass really better or is it just a fancy sounding gimmick? And what's up with "Silicon-anode Li-ion?" More RAM sounded good to me and the whole ubuntu in your pocket thing also sounds great, but premium pricing and new hardware technologies that are unproven worry me.

Is sapphire glass really better or is it just a fancy sounding gimmick? And what's up with "Silicon-anode Li-ion?" More RAM sounded good to me and the whole ubuntu in your pocket thing also sounds great

As far as I understand, that was the entire point. To see if that stuff was worthwhile in a phone. To push the boundaries. If all that stuff was a gimme, then phones would already have it.

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Post by mehwoot »

jherdman wrote: post #40
Mustafabei wrote: post #35

Considering ALL of the contribution packages with limits are claimed in the remaining hours, which would be: 3920000$ + 420000$ = 4340000$, for the funding to succeed; 15422386$ worth of other contributions have to also be made. That is: 771119,3 Founder or, 514079,5 Forgot International Shipping :) or, 308447,4 Founder With Style or, more reasonably; 22190 Ubuntu Edge or, 2203 Enterprise Starter Kit contributions in…

Unrelated question, but where are you from? I've not seen anyone write numbers quite like this before. It's sort of french, but sort of not...

It's just European without using thousand markers, right?

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Post by mgpetkov »

why-el wrote: post #28
JonFish85 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I question whether this was anything more than a way to test the waters and see if people would actually put up some money. Maybe they can use this as a benchmark to at least get some leverage with suppliers, and then set a more realistic goal for fundraising.

Asking for 30+ million to test the waters is kind of a stretch in my opinion.

Maybe they don't want to invest their own money in a very competitive market. If they order smaller number of devices their BOM can easily reach the sale price, so $32 millions sound huge sum, but in fact are not.

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Post by rlpb »

Zigurd wrote: post #33
rlpb wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't just want Ubuntu on my phone. I want my main Ubuntu desktop running on my phone, so that I can take it with me, with just an external monitor and keyboard needed at my desk. To make that experience really great, we need better phone hardware.

Many existing phones have hdmi-out, and can connect to Bluetooth keyboards and mice. Some also have USB-to-go. There was nothing new in the Edge hardware that would enhance that.

"We’ll choose the fastest available multi-core processor, at least 4GB of RAM and a massive 128GB of storage."

My point is that smartphones today would still be a bit sluggish when used for typical desktop tasks. While basic browsing would be OK, I want to be able open thirty tabs simultaneously like I do on my desktop. And (in my case) run a compiler. Etc.

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Post by vidarh »

gregpilling wrote: post #6

I was in Shenzhen in the spring, and there are many companies offering to make electronics for you. Minimum Order Quantity 1000. Many phones were available for under $200 that looked fairly deluxe, clones of the Samsung Note 2 and Galaxy 3, as well as some with more features like FM, TV, Dual Sim. Why did this project need to raise so much money? And why so high of a price for the handset? I think that this project w…

Lots of phones that look good, yes. I have one of the SIII clones, and while it's good value for money, and looks exactly like a Samsung (down to the wallpaper/screen saver, and optional fake Samsung logo if you want it) all the models I have seen are cheaper for a reason. E.g build quality and performance are substantially lower end than Samsungs originals.

You can get iPhone clones too, down to about $20. Naturally they're nothing like the real deal - the cheapest are feature-phones, and you'll find quite a few Android phones, some even with a skin mimicking iOS...

In other words, going by looks tells you nothing in that market.

Phone models that are actually Samsung level quality also cost about as much as the Samsung phones do in equivalent quantities.

(Dual SIM is pretty much "standard" on the Chinese phones - some have up to at least 4 SIM's)

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