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Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Post by sp332 »

nissimk wrote: post #22
rlpb wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then, presumably, it wouldn't be any different from other phones that exist on the market already, which completely defeats the point. This project is for better phone hardware, not just "Ubuntu on a phone" for which you can already run the development preview on existing phones.

But I agree with gregpilling. Why did they have to add all of those untested features to the spec. Is sapphire glass really better or is it just a fancy sounding gimmick? And what's up with "Silicon-anode Li-ion?" More RAM sounded good to me and the whole ubuntu in your pocket thing also sounds great, but premium pricing and new hardware technologies that are unproven worry me.

Sapphire glass is incredibly scratch-proof. And with a full desktop OS running in there, the battery is going to need all the help it can get.

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Post by Zigurd »

rlpb wrote: post #24
Zigurd wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was badly formulated in the first place. Ubuntu on phones is interesting because it's Ubuntu, not because some team with no previous track record in hardware wants to build a high-end phone. Making it about the hardware was unnecessary. How many of you would have bought a pre-configured Ubuntu phone on any decent existing ODM hardware platform?

I don't just want Ubuntu on my phone. I want my main Ubuntu desktop running on my phone, so that I can take it with me, with just an external monitor and keyboard needed at my desk. To make that experience really great, we need better phone hardware.

Many existing phones have hdmi-out, and can connect to Bluetooth keyboards and mice. Some also have USB-to-go. There was nothing new in the Edge hardware that would enhance that.

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

#34

Post by emilv »

forgottenpaswrd wrote: post #29

695 plus taxes(and in Europe it is at least 21-23%) is lots of money for a phone. Why they don't finance it? It is the only way normal people could buy it.

The price was including taxes (VAT), and I guess they would ship it from UK to European backers, with no duties inside the European union.

I agree that the price was high, but not higher than for other phones in the same market segment (comparable hardware and such). The problem with the price is that it wasn't very attractive either. A new, untested phone 9 months from now, for the same price and with comparable hardware to currently existing phones.

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

#35

Post by Mustafabei »

Considering ALL of the contribution packages with limits are claimed in the remaining hours, which would be:

3920000$ + 420000$ = 4340000$,

for the funding to succeed; 15422386$ worth of other contributions have to also be made. That is:

771119,3 Founder or, 514079,5 Forgot International Shipping :) or, 308447,4 Founder With Style or,

more reasonably;

22190 Ubuntu Edge or, 2203 Enterprise Starter Kit contributions in just under 20 hours.

Anyone wanna bet?

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

#36

Post by Zigurd »

nissimk wrote: post #22
rlpb wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then, presumably, it wouldn't be any different from other phones that exist on the market already, which completely defeats the point. This project is for better phone hardware, not just "Ubuntu on a phone" for which you can already run the development preview on existing phones.

But I agree with gregpilling. Why did they have to add all of those untested features to the spec. Is sapphire glass really better or is it just a fancy sounding gimmick? And what's up with "Silicon-anode Li-ion?" More RAM sounded good to me and the whole ubuntu in your pocket thing also sounds great, but premium pricing and new hardware technologies that are unproven worry me.

Sapphire glass will be used on several new upcoming high-end smartphones, and is already used by Vertu. So, yes, it is just a fancy sounding gimmick and will be commonplace in 2014.

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

#37

Post by AUmrysh »

nissimk wrote: post #22
rlpb wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then, presumably, it wouldn't be any different from other phones that exist on the market already, which completely defeats the point. This project is for better phone hardware, not just "Ubuntu on a phone" for which you can already run the development preview on existing phones.

But I agree with gregpilling. Why did they have to add all of those untested features to the spec. Is sapphire glass really better or is it just a fancy sounding gimmick? And what's up with "Silicon-anode Li-ion?" More RAM sounded good to me and the whole ubuntu in your pocket thing also sounds great, but premium pricing and new hardware technologies that are unproven worry me.

That's the real problem. They're selling a premium phone, and many people don't want a premium phone purchased at a premium price.

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

#38

Post by jellicle »

rlpb wrote: post #16
zackmorgs wrote: post #9

Yeah, that's not Kickstarter. They're keeping that money.

False. The money is returned if the funding doesn't reach the goal. From the FAQ: What if you fail to reach the funding target? We appreciate every bit of support we receive during the 30 days, and every backer will be welcomed into the Ubuntu community. If we don’t reach our target then we will focus only on commercially available handsets and there will not be an Ubuntu Edge. All contributions will be fully refunde…

I asked the last time around, but didn't get an answer: who's on the hook for the $300,000 in non-refundable credit card fees incurred by this project? Kickstarter's page on this is unclear.

Re: Ubuntu Edge - Less than 24 hours left, $20 million to go

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Post by jherdman »

Mustafabei wrote: post #35

Considering ALL of the contribution packages with limits are claimed in the remaining hours, which would be: 3920000$ + 420000$ = 4340000$, for the funding to succeed; 15422386$ worth of other contributions have to also be made. That is: 771119,3 Founder or, 514079,5 Forgot International Shipping :) or, 308447,4 Founder With Style or, more reasonably; 22190 Ubuntu Edge or, 2203 Enterprise Starter Kit contributions in…

Unrelated question, but where are you from? I've not seen anyone write numbers quite like this before. It's sort of french, but sort of not...
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