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That's amazing! I had no idea the F1 was so sturdy. My assumption (probably common) is that these super light exotics disintegrate when hitting large insects, let alone walls.
Many of them do, although there is the notorious story of an Enzo that got literally torn in half on CA 1 and both people inside walked away.
Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested
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Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested
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> There's winning and there's crushing the opponents. Crushing the opponents while your car remains uncrushed in the test (or the least crushed). That's what you get when you ask the rocket scientist to make you a car.
If you ask a rocket scientist to make you a car that passes the crash test ratings alone, they'll build you a tungsten dump truck. If you're going to win, you might as well reach the destination without noticing that you've had a collision.
Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested
#133This is all very good PR.... BUT. The critical safety concern with the Tesla is....... You guessed it. The high voltage system. It can kill you or a first responder with a touch. It's not just about batteries catching fire, although that's gotten a lot of press lately. A chief concern during a Tesla accident is the exposure of high voltage components. It's a big concern for first responders. Read it from the horse's…
About that, do cars attempt to shut down engines, fuel intake and electric pathways when detecting a collision ? I remember Liquid Gas vehicles having an emergency outlet to avoid fire/explosions. In Tesla's case that would be cutting the battery off the circuit and maybe putting it into a 'fast drain' mode ..
Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested
#134This is all very good PR.... BUT. The critical safety concern with the Tesla is....... You guessed it. The high voltage system. It can kill you or a first responder with a touch. It's not just about batteries catching fire, although that's gotten a lot of press lately. A chief concern during a Tesla accident is the exposure of high voltage components. It's a big concern for first responders. Read it from the horse's…
About that, do cars attempt to shut down engines, fuel intake and electric pathways when detecting a collision ? I remember Liquid Gas vehicles having an emergency outlet to avoid fire/explosions. In Tesla's case that would be cutting the battery off the circuit and maybe putting it into a 'fast drain' mode ..
As for "fast draining" the battery, where would the power drain to? That's exactly the problem.. NOT giving the power a path to go when you're working on the car.
This is not much of an issue with most cars because the electrical systems are low voltage (12V car battery). With Tesla it's enough to cause major injury or death with one touch if you complete the circuit.
Watch the video, it explains all this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntK3rvVl2Qw
Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested
#135What came to light in Germany some years ago, with a heated discussion, is that automotive companies seem to optimize their cars towards specific tests. The discussion raged around what tests are more realistic, with those that let the car makers look bad (foreign tests) being "not realistic".
Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested
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I can't believe people would complain about the updates to the software. They are more rare than iPhone dot releases and come with real benefits. Maybe they were pulling your chain.
What kind of updates come in Tesla software releases, and also how do they get into the car? I've actually never thought about this at all.
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showwiki.php?title=Model+S+so...
I started with 4.2 and am on 4.5 now.
Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested
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About that, do cars attempt to shut down engines, fuel intake and electric pathways when detecting a collision ? I remember Liquid Gas vehicles having an emergency outlet to avoid fire/explosions. In Tesla's case that would be cutting the battery off the circuit and maybe putting it into a 'fast drain' mode ..
You can't just "shut down" electric pathways. Not exactly. There is a manual cut that first responders need to make to sever the high voltage circuit before they can work on the car. However there's still capacitors, converters and the battery itself that remain dangerous especially if they've been compromised. As for "fast draining" the battery, where would the power drain to? That's exactly the problem.. NOT giving…
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And I think it's worth it for them to spend CEO time on it. Because the difference is not just between people reading good PR vs mediocre PR, but whether people will actually read it. (I.e. if it's not worth doing well, might as well not do it.)
Having a fearless leader one can look up to must also be fucking awesome for employee morale.
Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested
#139This is simply unkind to the competition (and to the poles alike): "Tesla achieved this outcome by nesting multiple deep aluminum extrusions in the side rail of the car that absorb the impact energy (a similar approach was used by the Apollo Lunar Lander) and transfer load to the rest of the vehicle. This causes the pole to be either sheared off or to stop the car before the pole hits an occupant." There's winning an…
Here's the video of the Tesla pole test: http://youtu.be/_Al3IUHt9Wc?t=32s Honda Accord for comparison: http://youtu.be/ycntFFUfGkU?t=30s
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First: SUVs don't survive crashes particularly well This is outdated information, SUVs are now far safer than cars. Death rate (per 1M vehicle years) for 4WD midsize SUV: 23. Midsize Sedan: 51 [1] [1] http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr4605.pdf
Great link. What is the rationale for reporting death rates in terms of vehicle-years, rather than rate per mile traveled? What if SUVs just get driven less (due to poor mileage, only being taken out in the snow...)
Vehicle-years can be determined directly from vehicle registration data. Miles traveled would require a lot more guesswork.