I agree that I see a lot of title edits that are simply worse than the original. This is pretty much classic micromanagement. Someone who doesn't know the details thinks they know better and force their opinion on everyone else.
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#82My 5 cents: today I've submitted this [0] post, its title was "Valve is planning to use Blender as a game modding tool in Steam". Then it was renamed by somebody to "Steam-powered Blender" which resulted a bunch of title related comments like:
> You know, with a link title like that, I was really hoping to see a food processor powered by a steam engine.
>> That's HN for you. You're never quite sure whether it's programming related or not.
>> Same. I was expecting something along the lines of the pulse jet powered tea kettle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fDM9Eb16Do
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Karma thresholds for doing this and that. Not sure where "upvote" is, but "downvote" was recently at 500.
Thanks, anyone sure of what the upvote threshold is?
1?
I just logged into an (old) account[0] with no comments or submissions. It has 1 karma and as far as I could tell it was able to upvote no problem.
[0]826 days old. Can't for the life of me remember why I created it, or what (if anything) I did with it but the karma count was at 1 and there were no listed comments or submissions.
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#84What confuses me is why many submissions are killed off and hidden. For example, right now, if you click new is show dead on you will see this grayed out: 15.[dead] Oracle's Larry Ellison enthusiastically applauds NSA spying (techeye.net) 1 point by Mitt 17 minutes ago | flag | discuss I copy and paste it in to google, and find what looks to me like a reasonable article. It even has a CBS video source(1). It is a leg…
Some sites are auto-banned. I wouldn't be surprised techeye.net is among them, based on a quick look at the home page. While this has the occasional false positive, there are reasons for most of them.
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#85This, along with the equally draconian practice of shadowbanning, really ought to be ceased.
Wouldn't outright banning be more draconian (I browse with show dead on, so I can still read some interesting comments from time to time, this wouldn't be the case with outright bans), or are you suggesting no banning at all?
hellbanning is worse because the person doesn't know they are banned and almost no one sees their content. it would be much nicer to the person being banned to simply tell them they are banned and not to waste effort any more. the only reason hellbanning exists is to trick the banned person into not making a new account with a different ip. for spammers and people making personal attacks, fine. but a lot of people hellbanned are simply voicing unpopular opinions. there were several europeans in a thread recently about how europe has different rules about PC who were dead, for example, which was pretty funny but also sad
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#86What confuses me is why many submissions are killed off and hidden. For example, right now, if you click new is show dead on you will see this grayed out: 15.[dead] Oracle's Larry Ellison enthusiastically applauds NSA spying (techeye.net) 1 point by Mitt 17 minutes ago | flag | discuss I copy and paste it in to google, and find what looks to me like a reasonable article. It even has a CBS video source(1). It is a leg…
HN has a moderation policy that is heavy-handed, overbearing, inconsistent, and pathetically ineffective at preventing the lowbrow discourse that such a policy is theoretically designed to eliminate.
This is consistent with the site's elitist tendencies.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
It wouldn't be that bad--being on the front page is itself a prequalification, and being on the front page despite having a meaningless title means it's on the front page for reasons other than being linkbait. Removing titles altogether might make things more meritocratic, actually (if a little more painful for the people who only click things if they're about a certain topic.)
So, no titles but a tag cloud about contents?
Your comment, standing alone, sounds like a really interesting idea.
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#88This thread will probably disappear soon as one of the few rules that is actually enforced on HN is the "no talk about moderation" one. You should instead (per the rules) e-mail info@ycombinator.com with your concerns.
ah, the feeling of living in a false democracy...
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
People create threads to discuss hellbans (or shadowbans, or whatever others might prefer) from time to time, too. Hellbanning is a practice that I find almost embarrassing. Browse this site with "show dead" enabled, and you'll find perfectly good comments showing up as dead. You'll also see legit problem posters showing why they should simply be banned, rather than allowed to post dead comments all day.
I like hellbanning. A few people are unfairly caught out by it, but they are usually told about it. And the fact you see problem posters continuing to post on their banned accounts shows it works well enough to prevent those people just changing IP and creating new accounts.
In the case of one of our infamous hellbanned posters (hint: the guy with the random text generator, attributed to "God"), I'm fairly sure that he knows he's hellbanned.
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#90What confuses me is why many submissions are killed off and hidden. For example, right now, if you click new is show dead on you will see this grayed out: 15.[dead] Oracle's Larry Ellison enthusiastically applauds NSA spying (techeye.net) 1 point by Mitt 17 minutes ago | flag | discuss I copy and paste it in to google, and find what looks to me like a reasonable article. It even has a CBS video source(1). It is a leg…
You are waaaay overthinking it.
Probably was just flagged to death because people are getting overloaded with NSA stories, especially when there is no new additions. I would probably have flagged it if I saw it, doesn't really advance the discussion and frankly, I don't come to HN for politics.