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Post by nekopa »

noarchy wrote: post #49
beedogs wrote: post #40

This, along with the equally draconian practice of shadowbanning, really ought to be ceased.

People create threads to discuss hellbans (or shadowbans, or whatever others might prefer) from time to time, too. Hellbanning is a practice that I find almost embarrassing. Browse this site with "show dead" enabled, and you'll find perfectly good comments showing up as dead. You'll also see legit problem posters showing why they should simply be banned, rather than allowed to post dead comments all day.

If the problem posters were banned, I think the technical nature of most members here would mean that they would quickly and easily set up a new account to troll from again, leading to playing whack-a-mole with the banhammer. That was, IIRC, one of the reasons for shadow ban creation.

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#52

Post by toble »

aaron695 wrote: post #42
huhtenberg wrote: post #9

The problem is not that titles are edited, but that such edits are not indicated in any way, effectively putting someone else's words in submitter's mouth. It is simply unacceptable.

I think it's not really putting words in the submitters mouth since A. We all know it happens. B. It's replacing it with the actual title written by the author. It can't be confused with words written by the OP. Personally no rule is perfect and simple things like just changing it can work. We all know or quickly learn the rule. It could be worst like reddit style where the titles have collapsed and are consistently…

It would be good to at least indicate when an editor has rewritten a submission, so that responsibility for the headline can be pointed to the correct user. Like a '/ editorsusername' after the submitters name.

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Post by Jgrubb »

dhiraj86 wrote: post #53

Another Problem: I've been a member for over 2 months and still can't upvote stuff. Just wondering how it works?

Karma thresholds for doing this and that. Not sure where "upvote" is, but "downvote" was recently at 500.

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#57

Post by DanBC »

noarchy wrote: post #49
beedogs wrote: post #40

This, along with the equally draconian practice of shadowbanning, really ought to be ceased.

People create threads to discuss hellbans (or shadowbans, or whatever others might prefer) from time to time, too. Hellbanning is a practice that I find almost embarrassing. Browse this site with "show dead" enabled, and you'll find perfectly good comments showing up as dead. You'll also see legit problem posters showing why they should simply be banned, rather than allowed to post dead comments all day.

I like hellbanning.

A few people are unfairly caught out by it, but they are usually told about it.

And the fact you see problem posters continuing to post on their banned accounts shows it works well enough to prevent those people just changing IP and creating new accounts.

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Post by PaulHoule »

Well, I've seen the editors of HN save my butt when I've written things I shouldn't have written and they edited it so I think of it as a feature rather than a bug. Where else do you get service like that?

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Post by speeder »

amirmc wrote: post #37
orenbarzilai wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if you publish post using "fake" accounts I assume that these accounts have low karma and most of your posts won't make it to the main page thus no one will read them.

Posting news stories on HN is independent of karma. Posts end up on the front page because people upvote them, not because the poster has high karma.

More or less. Many times I submitted a article and it got ignored and then someone popular posted it stay and got 300+ upvotes.

But it is not really karma related,.and more if people remember your nickname.

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Post by DanBC »

tylermenezes wrote: post #6

This question gets asked every few weeks. The mods change titles. This is mostly to try to normalize posts, so things with super linkbait titles don't always do well, and things with terrible titles don't always do poorly. You are copying and pasting a link into a box and writing a few words. You are not doing real work. How the post does should be relevant to its content, not the few words you typed into the box.

> How the post does should be relevant to its content, not the few words you typed into the box.

This is true, but idealistic. "How the post does should be relevant [...]" is not the same as "How the post does is relevant [...]".

Some lousy articles with click baity headlines get upvotes.

And it's particularly frustrating when a neutral informative headline is changed back to the uninformative or clickbaity original headline of the article.

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