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Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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I appreciate the input. All I can really say is that you have to remember elementary is not a business. We don't have investors. We don't aim for market share or target X number of users by X date. Fundamentally, we build what we think is best, and if other people find it valuable too, they use it. So far, it's worked. So "user acquisition" isn't really a concern for us, though frankly, I believe it should be. And un…

> So "user acquisition" isn't really a concern for us Than why have you released the project to the public, made a nice website for it, made documentation, etc? Why do something good in the world if you don't care if it benefits people? Rather, if you've done something that you hope will benefit people in the world, don't you think you should try to benefit as many people as possible? The design choices you've made e…

Please don't put words in my mouth. There is a difference between "not caring if it benefits people" and making increasing our audience our #1 priority.

We care about spreading our efforts. We care about having a nice public face and benefiting as many people as possible.

I was reacting to the more crude notion of "user acquisition". That is absolutely NOT our goal; our goal is to build something great. I was viewing the term "user acquisition" as "focus on getting as many people to use our product as possible".

I think you mistook what I intended to say, and if I was not clear, I apologize. But please don't think that I'm saying we couldn't care less about spreading what we've created and making it beneficial to as many people as possible. I'm saying that we care deeply about building something great, and that is our primary focus, not convincing people to use it.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Yes, absolutely we are doing different things. Examples include our launcher (from the top left hand corner), slingshot[1], our deprecation of the desktop as a place for folders, and our human interface guidelines. As another concrete example, we are very much trying to eliminate menu bars entirely. Instead, our apps use the "AppMenu"[2] -- a cog wheel that works similarly to Google Chrome. [1] Here's a video I found…

Slingshot looks pretty much like a non-fullscreen version of Launchpad[1]. [1] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3c/Lion_Launchpad...

I assume you were being sarcastic, but in case you weren't:

We don't have folders, you can't move the icons around, you can browse by category[0], and the layout (other than the fact that we have icons in a grid) is completely different.

Because we lay icons out in a grid, we're copying Apple? Come on.

[0] http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/258/8/d/slingshot_col...

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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I showed ElementaryOS to my art-student sister and she loved it! She wants me to install it alongside her Windows OS so she can dual-boot.

She loves the simplicity and says that what she does on the net and her PC is completely covered by Elementary. Document writing, web browsing, text chat, email, video viewing, audio listening - all can be done easily and user-friendly.

Elementary is not enough for my advanced needs (I don't like docks, I prefer taskbars), but looks like Elementary might have some traction in the regular-user market.

Keep up the good work guys!

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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One strong point for Linux in the desktop is hardware compatibility. Issues like wifi and graphic cards support, battery duration, hotness, hibernation and suspension support are vital for users and power users (designers, developers). This is most important today than application availability. Unfortunately I don't see any hardware compatibility list for ElementaryOS yet.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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The video seriously says gaming? I don't believe there is a real game you can play there, beside Minecraft. (For pretty obvious reasons) Any one here who thinks or knows different?

My Steam acc has 42 linux games, also there are 20-30 more from humble bundles ... any platform on which you can play Psychonauts and Brutal Legend is good enough for me.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Looks great, nice work. But where can we find a more technical overview? I wasn't even sure whether it was Linux or BSD based or something else until halfway down the front page, and had to check the Developers section to find out it's based on Ubuntu. But which version, and what big changes did you make under the hood?

> "I wasn't even sure whether it was Linux or BSD based or something else until halfway down the front page, and had to check the Developers section to find out it's based on Ubuntu." Really? Are those really worth complaining about? If anything, successful OSes (based on user base) have taught us that marketing should focus on user-centric features first, technical ones second.

You must be new to Linux. Knowing which distro and version it is built on immediately tells you a great deal about what "user-centric features" are available in it, without having to list and explain them all.

And this is HN, man. For the average poster here, "technical" features and "user-centric features" are one and the same.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Package managers are user-centric features and I'd certainly never install a Linux distro that doesn't use apt. It's fairly important information.

You'd never install a non-apt system? You should try a pacman based system, I find it to be nicer, because it embodies the Arch philosophy of keeping things simple.

So simple it didn't even have package signing until a year or two ago. No thanks.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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post #244

One strong point for Linux in the desktop is hardware compatibility. Issues like wifi and graphic cards support, battery duration, hotness, hibernation and suspension support are vital for users and power users (designers, developers). This is most important today than application availability. Unfortunately I don't see any hardware compatibility list for ElementaryOS yet.

I believe elementaryOS is based on Ubuntu 12.04, it just uses a different window manager and has a few custom applications.

So as far as I can tell, any hardware that's supported by Ubuntu, should be supported in eOS too

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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As a mixed Windows/Ubuntu user (sticking to I3 tiled windows manager for reference) just trying this out, I have to say this is quite impressive.

I might actually change my Ubuntu setup for this, but I still haven't decided.

Edit: To make it clear, I've considered elementaryos before. I've even booted a live-installation once or twice. But now I'm considering putting this on one of my main systems. This is snappy. This is an improvement.

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