I love bootstrap, but I'm completely unconvinced about the flat trend. My site, www.liberwriter.com is squarely aimed at non-technical people who are not really on top of the latest trends. I could very easily envision them having a higher cognitive load trying to figure out what is a button and what isn't and so on. What do testing and studies show about this?
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#72But I will say its nice that they're going Flat. Much easier on the eyes, and much simpler to creative a responsive layout for multiple screen sizes.
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#73So what exactly is the point of bootstrap? It includes an entirely pointless (and poorly made) grid system; an excessive (and unnecessary) css reset; complex & slow selectors, and lots of default styling you're probably going to replace anyhow. If it were a bunch of separate modules you could individually include and use as a template for your own style, you could actually use the parts you need: as it is, I really d…
If you are writing a web application of sorts that needs to have a basic theme (buttons, forms, menus, etc) then Bootstrap serves a good purpose and gives you a responsive layout along with it. It also brings some sense of uniformity across apps for more complex controls. For anything beyond that you are better off with yui/pure or csswizardry/inuit which offer much better responsive grid systems. Pure has one shortc…
It's not rocket science, it's HTML and CSS, and you don't need a framework to have uniformity or responsiveness.
Your site could be made up of a bunch of jquery plugins too, and stock library graphics, and is your content rehashed too?
div class=span4 is nothing more than a table-based layout in disguise. Spans and rows are not inherent to divs. You're adding a layer of new rules that doesn't complement the technology you're adding to. You may as well be building with an old fashioned table based layout.
When I view source of some of the flagship bootstrap examples, I see stuff like this... empty divs either side of the logo graphic. I remember doing stuff like this with tables back in the 90s. Spacer gifs inside the empty table cells. But in this case, it's a class.
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#74Cue a dozen comments about flat buttons. This looks like a nice set of changes for Bootstrap. I'm not sure how I feel about the grid class name changes, but then again, I went all-in on Foundation a few months back, so it doesn't affect me one way or another. I'm sure mdo and fat have excellent reasons for using Less instead of Sass, but I'm a Rails user and I like Sass better to boot. Anyway, no matter, I'm glad to…
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same here, and it jumps around as I scroll down a long page such as http://getbootstrap.com/css/
Also buggy on Opera 12 in Linux.
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#76- Striped tables are styled via the :nth-child CSS selector, which is not available in IE8.
- IE and Safari don't actually support the attribute on a
- Avoid using elements here as they cannot be fully styled in WebKit browsers.
- If you add the disabled attribute to a , Internet Explorer 9 and below will render text gray with a nasty text-shadow that we cannot fix.
- Keep in mind that Internet Explorer 8 lacks support for rounded corners.
- Badges won't self collapse in Internet Explorer 8 because it lacks support for the :empty selector.
- Progress bars use CSS3 transitions and animations to achieve some of their effects. These features are not supported in Internet Explorer 9 and below or older versions of Firefox. Opera 12 does not support animations.
- Firefox persists the disabled state across page loads. A workaround for this is to use autocomplete="off".
It would be nice to see if any progress is being made on these.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Clearly, I can't speak to BS3, but the thing I like most about Foundation is the mobile-first grid: build your grid layout using Foundation's 'small- n ' classes and it just works on larger screens too. If you want to develop more complex layouts for larger screens, all you have to do is append 'large- n ' class names (and now 'medium- n ' exists, too).
bs3 is mobile first also
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#78so0o0 do we have a gem yet
Why add another point of failure on your site?
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#80I love bootstrap, but I'm completely unconvinced about the flat trend. My site, www.liberwriter.com is squarely aimed at non-technical people who are not really on top of the latest trends. I could very easily envision them having a higher cognitive load trying to figure out what is a button and what isn't and so on. What do testing and studies show about this?