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#91

the idea that NASDAQ might've been hacked using an SQL injection is pretty scary, as it's a pretty trivial attack to protect against in most cases (mysql_real_escape_string?) - is security in stock exchanges really so lax?

mysql_real_escape_string is not the right answer. The only way to prevent SQL injection attacks is to use bind variables.

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You would think that a way to stop these kinds of attacks for pennies on the dollar would be to have the security companies, banks, retail stores and others involved on the receiving side of these attacks fund hackathons or startup accelerators in every country, like a startup weekend, to give these "kids" a chance at legal startups and to get paid for finding bugs.

We spend how many hundreds of billions on the NSA so they can slurp all the worlds data? Why not force them to secure all networks?

Our whole DOD budget is only 600-700 billion, so its unlikely we spend "hundreds of billions" on the NSA. Estimates are 8-10 billion: http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/07/news/economy/nsa-surveillanc....

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HA the jokes on you! We already HAVE the result of that. In all serious though, just be thankful you're still alive you unappreciative uppity citizen; at least you haven't been killed by a terrorist yet .

People don't often die from terrorism. He is much more likley to die from diabities, heart disease, cars or a gun shot. More toddlers with guns have killed Americans this year than terrorist have. If we are trying to save lives, worrying about terrorism is a waste of money.

If you're going to ignore chilling effects, then by that reasoning the NSA surveillance is totally harmless.

That's a ridiculous argument. The Beltway sniper killed 10 people in 2002, a fraction of the number who died in car accidents that year. But tens of thousands of people had their lives disrupted as they ducked down while filling up at gas stations.

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That's exactly what defines SQLi. Incorrect filtering of user data is precisely the reason why SQLi is a vulnerability.

The better way to defend against SQLi would be to use proper quoting/prepared statements, instead of trying to play whack-a-mole by filtering and limiting the content of the input strings.

Correct, but that doesn't make the statement of the causes for SQLi any different.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We spend how many hundreds of billions on the NSA so they can slurp all the worlds data? Why not force them to secure all networks?

Our whole DOD budget is only 600-700 billion, so its unlikely we spend "hundreds of billions" on the NSA. Estimates are 8-10 billion: http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/07/news/economy/nsa-surveillanc... .

That's hardly de DoD budget as it ignores a lot of rather costly items like the VA.

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I honestly believe eastern Europe and possibly Israel are years ahead of the United States when it comes to the Internet - not with regard to adaptivity, but with regard to raw hacking ability. I have yet to understand why and I only have anecdotal evidence (including living in Ukraine), but there's something to those places that make them breed hackers.

They can't easily get jobs that pay them well, the way most programmers in the West can. People really good at security in the US just get a job making a great salary.

You don't even have to be 'good at security' to get a job making great salary - just a clearance and maybe a certification or two.

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> According to one indictment, European credit card numbers sold for as much as $50, while US ones fetched about $10. This is truly dumbfounding to me. They had normalized, searchable access to millions of credit cards. They presumably had systematic ways of siphoning off money on high balance cards in a way that no one would've ever noticed. And yet, their grand scheme was to hock the numbers piecemeal for 50 a pop?…

It's easy to farm credit cards and accounts once you have your infrastructure in place, but it's not so easy to actually profit from them. It's time-consuming and a big liability. So you do the next best thing: you dump them.

Re: “NASDAQ is owned.” Five men charged in largest financial hack ever

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I honestly believe eastern Europe and possibly Israel are years ahead of the United States when it comes to the Internet - not with regard to adaptivity, but with regard to raw hacking ability. I have yet to understand why and I only have anecdotal evidence (including living in Ukraine), but there's something to those places that make them breed hackers.

It feels like it's been that way for at least a couple of decades. In the early years of PC viruses it seemed like all the innovation was coming out of eastern Europe.

And before that, I remember that (at least in Mexico) there was the idea that the USSR had the best people in mathematics and chess.
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