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Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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Not so psyched to see that it's still got a 16:10 screen. One of the things I love about my iPad mini is that it's actually usable in portrait mode for reading PDFs and Word documents on the go. That said, I'm hoping the increased screen resolution will make it practical to just zoom out a bit more and just hold the device closer to my face... Also really happy to see the LTE. I think having LTE on the go is crucial,…

I understand that you're giving a personal opinion, however worth noting that the average usage of tablets dramatically favors watching movies and videos over reading Word documents and PDFs. Having both Nexus 7s and an iPad, I would say that I hugely favour the former for watching movies, and they are essentially equal when browsing the web (speaking purely of the aspect ratios. Safari on the iPad is a dramatically…

>however worth noting that the average usage of tablets dramatically favors watching movies and videos over reading Word documents and PDFs.

The average use also favors using the web over watching movies and videos, which works better in the 4:3 format.

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The nexus 7 doesn't have an SD slot.

The mount point of the internal storage is /sdcard, that's probably what he meant.

That's not right either. On the Galaxy Nexus, there is a single /data partition. A subdirectory of this is mounted (via a FUSE gadget which enforced FAT-like semantics) for use as the "sdcard" partition, and /sdcard is a symlink to that. (It's a symlink so it can be redirected for different device users).

There is no action that can be taken on an "sdcard" partition on a GNex. It has to be done on /data.

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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Like many of you here I have a Nexus 7. I got it as a present cuz I didn't see why I'd need a tablet what with having a smartphone and nice laptop. I could never justify the price of an iPad cuz I'm not really that well off. The Nexus 7 is a joy to use. It's light, the screen is great - it's quick (I got my daughter a Kindle Fire and sometimes you can see that device straining a bit: eg. load times on Despicable Me (…

Since I got my ipad mini, I have not really used my nexus, only for debugging my apps. The battery, screen, speed and so were all worse, and I never got used to the os as much as I have for iOS. If I didn't need an android tablet, I probably would not have one.

Uh, the iPad Mini's screen is 1024-by-768/163 PPI. The first-gen N7's is 1280x800/216 ppi. The N7's screen is noticeably nicer.

I can't speak to battery or speed as I haven't had a lot of hands-on time with the Mini, but I will note that the N7's slimmer aspect ratio means it fits nicely in a pocket, while the iPad Mini just plain doesn't.

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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post #98

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16GB Nexus 7 is $269, 16GB iPad mini is $329, the difference is 20%.

The updated 16GB Nexus 7 is $229 . That's a 30% difference. You're also missing the fact that until this update, the Nexus 7 16GBs were only $199, which is a whopping 40% difference.

My mistake, I looked at the price in the Play Store and looked at the wrong one.

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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I wonder which is a better deal for a new tablet owner. A 2012 N7 or a 2013 N7? Seems like a lot of people are satisfied with their N7 and it is getting the new software update. Should I go for the new or stick with last year's model?

Go for the new. The new N7 may be getting the new software update, but it's not like it has the hardware to match. Better chips, a back-camera, a notification light. Likely faster/fixed NAND issues as well. There are a lot of new things in the 2013 N7 to like.

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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So 4.3 fixes neither the ad-hoc WiFi issue #82 nor the audio latency issue #3434. I will continue to pass as those are the deal breakers for me. It’s amazing – these two have been pending for more than 4 years. Google hasn’t cared to even comment on the former while thousands of users beg them to: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=82

Is Ad-Hoc networking useful for anything other than creating an access point called "Free Public Wifi" and then installing viruses on the Windows machines that connect? (OK, most wireless chipsets can simulate Infrastructure-mode networks these days, so not supporting Ad-Hoc mode doesn't help much in that department.)

You misunderstand. You can already create access point on Android. The bug is about Android not being able to connect to ad-hoc WiFi networks (say, one created on your laptop whose chipset doesn't support infra-mode). (edit: Also want to mention that iOS devices have supported this ad-hoc networking from Day 1).

There are a number of use-cases reported on that bug: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=82

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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So 4.3 fixes neither the ad-hoc WiFi issue #82 nor the audio latency issue #3434. I will continue to pass as those are the deal breakers for me. It’s amazing – these two have been pending for more than 4 years. Google hasn’t cared to even comment on the former while thousands of users beg them to: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=82

> So 4.3 fixes neither the ad-hoc WiFi issue #82 nor the audio latency issue #3434. Low latency audio is "fixed" on the Android side, it needs better device support though. Apps need to actually support the fast path as well, which I don't think many do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3kfEeMZ65c I don't know if the new Nexus 7 supports the low latency audio path, though. But Android itself does have low latency audi…

Yes, there has been progress on this (separately on input latency and output latency). I don't think all the improvements have been pushed out yet (even on supported devices).

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The updated 16GB Nexus 7 is $229 . That's a 30% difference. You're also missing the fact that until this update, the Nexus 7 16GBs were only $199, which is a whopping 40% difference.

My mistake, I looked at the price in the Play Store and looked at the wrong one.

No worries! I completely understand.

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since I got my ipad mini, I have not really used my nexus, only for debugging my apps. The battery, screen, speed and so were all worse, and I never got used to the os as much as I have for iOS. If I didn't need an android tablet, I probably would not have one.

Uh, the iPad Mini's screen is 1024-by-768/163 PPI. The first-gen N7's is 1280x800/216 ppi. The N7's screen is noticeably nicer. I can't speak to battery or speed as I haven't had a lot of hands-on time with the Mini, but I will note that the N7's slimmer aspect ratio means it fits nicely in a pocket, while the iPad Mini just plain doesn't.

Screen "niceness" constitutes far more factors than just DPI.

It could be contrast ratio, colour gamut, brightness, subpixel quality, viewing angles, reflectivity of coating, susceptibility to oils/fingerprints...

(I haven't used either, I'm just saying)

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