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Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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Compare any two items in the same category that are 65% apart in price and it probably wouldn't make a lot of sense to choose the cheaper one.

16GB Nexus 7 is $269, 16GB iPad mini is $329, the difference is 20%.

The updated 16GB Nexus 7 is $229. That's a 30% difference.

You're also missing the fact that until this update, the Nexus 7 16GBs were only $199, which is a whopping 40% difference.

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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Do you know how to run logcat[1] after connecting a USB cable and enabling USB ebugging and downloading and install Android SDK? It's not that hard. You may see some error messages in the output. That might give you a clue. Otherwise back everything up (this is not that hard at all) and do a reset. If you navigate to Google Play on a PC you'll see a list of your devices and have a history of all the apps you ever ins…

> If you navigate to Google Play on a PC you'll see a list of your devices and have a history of all the apps you ever installed and you can reinstall them remotely from the PC. Yeah... About that... Google removed that feature.

When? I just tried it moments ago, and successfully remote-installed an app to my GT-i9100.

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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This problem can be fixed. I have done it myself with a Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 7. This is a trimming issue of the internal memory. - Root the tablet (if you haven't already). - Install lagfix (free) from the market or crosscompile fstrim and run it on your sd card. Your tablet / phone will be fast again.

The nexus 7 doesn't have an SD slot.

The mount point of the internal storage is /sdcard, that's probably what he meant.

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I should add that Jelly Bean was the first version of Android that I noticed to lose all traces of lagginess and be comparable response-wise to any iPhone or iPad I've used. Apple nailed this UX from the get-go, it took a while for Google to nail this I feel; also perhaps unoptimized Android devices were not helping matters. My HTC and Nexus, both with Jelly Bean are as smooth as, um, butter.

I constantly hear people make this claim, but in my experience, it is not true. I have owned tons of Android devices and they have really gotten a lot smoother and responsive, especially with 4.1/4.2 releases, but they still don't come close to iOS. I have tried tons of different roms on the Galaxy Nexus and the factory roms on the One X, One, and S4, but they just don't have the iOS level of smooth.

The thing about the Galaxy Nexus is that it's essentially a Samsung Galaxy sII but with 2.4x more pixels to push with the same GPU.

There are some optimizations that iOS can make that Android can't, but the gnex in particular I think is slightly crippled.

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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Do you know how to run logcat[1] after connecting a USB cable and enabling USB ebugging and downloading and install Android SDK? It's not that hard. You may see some error messages in the output. That might give you a clue. Otherwise back everything up (this is not that hard at all) and do a reset. If you navigate to Google Play on a PC you'll see a list of your devices and have a history of all the apps you ever ins…

> If you navigate to Google Play on a PC you'll see a list of your devices and have a history of all the apps you ever installed and you can reinstall them remotely from the PC. Yeah... About that... Google removed that feature.

What feature? Are you sure? I just remotely installed an app to test it out. Google Play still has a My Apps section. And if you go to https://play.google.com/settings you'll see your devices. Which feature do you think is gone?

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So 4.3 fixes neither the ad-hoc WiFi issue #82 nor the audio latency issue #3434. I will continue to pass as those are the deal breakers for me. It’s amazing – these two have been pending for more than 4 years. Google hasn’t cared to even comment on the former while thousands of users beg them to: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=82

> So 4.3 fixes neither the ad-hoc WiFi issue #82 nor the audio latency issue #3434.

Low latency audio is "fixed" on the Android side, it needs better device support though. Apps need to actually support the fast path as well, which I don't think many do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3kfEeMZ65c

I don't know if the new Nexus 7 supports the low latency audio path, though. But Android itself does have low latency audio, it's a device-specific thing though.

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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I should add that Jelly Bean was the first version of Android that I noticed to lose all traces of lagginess and be comparable response-wise to any iPhone or iPad I've used. Apple nailed this UX from the get-go, it took a while for Google to nail this I feel; also perhaps unoptimized Android devices were not helping matters. My HTC and Nexus, both with Jelly Bean are as smooth as, um, butter.

I constantly hear people make this claim, but in my experience, it is not true. I have owned tons of Android devices and they have really gotten a lot smoother and responsive, especially with 4.1/4.2 releases, but they still don't come close to iOS. I have tried tons of different roms on the Galaxy Nexus and the factory roms on the One X, One, and S4, but they just don't have the iOS level of smooth.

Agreed. I have never once experienced iOS level smoothness from my Note II, and I've run both stock TouchWiz 4.1 and a CM 10.1 4.2 variant called Liquidsmooth.

Android is great, I wouldn't trade back to iOS for the world, but I've just learned to accept the hiccups, lag and odd behavior that hurts my "suspension of belief" (or whatever term describes the ability to believe that we're actually 'moving' things by touching a screen).

Re: Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet

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You know, I was having this problem on my GN for a long time. I was convinced I was experiencing the storage deterioration problem. My GN is rooted and I've been running custom ROMs for a long time, keeping them up to date as time went on, and performance was fine. I was running JDX [1], and was happy with it... but as time went on, the device got slower, and all indications to me were that it was the storage deterio…

Thanks for the advice, but I'm not keen on running custom roms. It just aggravates me that Google doesn't acknowledge the issue.

> It just aggravates me that Google doesn't acknowledge the issue.

I guess my point is that "the issue" might not be storage deterioration (for which you'd be inclined to blame Google, or Samsung). Perhaps the ROM you're using (sent to you by your carrier, right?) is the issue. If the custom ROM solves your problem, you'll both a) learn that the issue wasn't storage degradation, and b) make your phone usable. Again, if you're considering getting a new phone anyway (because it's slow), it's worth a shot. And it's kinda fun to hack into your phone, anyway, right?

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