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Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Post by freehunter »

hrktb wrote: post #114
freehunter wrote: post #73

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Because there are no facts, Apple hasn't said a word. The alternative is that we ignore this. At least with this article (which no one has to read), there's a place for HN Apple devs to talk amongst each other.

It goes very deep in meta territory, but hey, it's not as if there were any fact intersting to discuss. I remember a lot of discussions a year or two ago when marco was very vocal about the reasons he didn't have comments on his blog, and would prefer to have all of these on HN for e.g. slowdown 's comment goes the other way round, on why HN should care about commenting on marco's blog. There is another thread [1] wi…

I've been checking on that post since it first came up looking for anything new, but old HN posts get to be hard to read for new stuff pretty quick, especially with no way to collapse a thread. If there was anything new, I'd be hard pressed to actually find it.

That thread is quickly sliding down the list and is already off the front page. I don't think a new one is out of the question.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Post by b1daly »

pbsdp wrote: post #101
berkut wrote: post #86

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Can you give me an example of the "non-intuitive non-standard UI"? This may well be true, but it's quite possible it's just the developer was lazy and didn't do all the effort to make it look native. Edit: in fact, I'll give an example: VirtualBox - it does look crap on OS X, but that's because the developers obviously didn't make any effort to make it look native. They've got icons in tabs pane buttons and huge tool…

VirtualBox, IDA Pro, Google Earth (in fact, everything from Google that uses Qt), EAGLE (PCB software), OpenSCAD, QGIS ... I've literally never been fooled by a Qt app -- a Mac user can spot that hot mess from a mile away. It's not just a matter of visual layout and UX, although that matters and always falls somewhere between subtly or completely wrong. The controls also tend to lag at weird times, behave slightly st…

Somewhat off topic, but does anyone know how Adobe does their cross platform interface? It doesn't feel like native Mac OS UI, though I think it works pretty well.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Post by angersock »

undoware wrote: post #128

Let us compare: World's premier closed-source shop: (presumably) gets hacked; goes down; stays down. Github, Rubygems, Linux Kernel, etc. get hacked; restore from SHA256SUM'ed backups; keep moving. Turns out what used to be called "hobby" projects matter, because code made without love has a smell, and no one does a "hobby" for anything but. (Remember the 'ama' in 'amateur') (ok ok so kernel.org was down for a while.…

You probably have better developers pushing live code over at those other places, I'd bet.

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Post by rossjudson »

Jgrubb wrote: post #81

This reminds me, yesterday i got an obviously spoofed phishing email from "apple" telling me to reset my passwords and reenter my CC info. Anybody else get that? http://imgur.com/hyta4bC

It never ceases to amaze me that such emails are carefully constructed in the graphical sense, but miserable failures in the grammatical.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Post by nsxwolf »

amznthrowaway wrote: post #158
DannyBee wrote: post #88

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Now now, don't be mad because what he says is true. It's unbecoming. If you really care, put your effort into making it false.

It is false. I and my coworkers make plenty of money developing for Linux. Also, we're hiring: http://aws.amazon.com/sdejobs/

Do you all make money developing Linux software for consumers? Anything my mom may have used, perhaps?

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Post by nsxwolf »

dman wrote: post #121
spellboots wrote: post #118

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I don't think anyone was, least of all me. In any case, I'll bite: Different UI toolkits make doing certain things hard, certain things easy, and some things damn near impossible without large effort on the part of the developer. So when the parent commenter says "Nobody on OS X wants a Qt app", I'd argue that yes, although you can make a "well designed QT app", it's much harder to make a "well designed OS X app" wit…

I think a more useful statement is that "Nobody on OSX wants a poorly designed app because the platform has a high standard for design". It is possible to design well designed apps without using Cocoa - see Sublime Text.

Yes, but Sublime's UI consists almost entirely of a gigantic text window and the OS X menu bar.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Post by vor_ »

_pmf_ wrote: post #31
benihana wrote: post #12

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Could you imagine if people could make the kind of money developing things for Linux that they do developing things for iOS? It would make comments like yours kind of funny and relevant.

> Could you imagine if people could make the kind of money developing things for Linux that they do developing things for iOS? It would make comments like yours kind of funny and relevant. Yeah, one has to admit that Mac users are a more receptive audience for the high-brow humor of sophisticated fart apps.

Staggeringly ignorant if you think the Apple ecosystem is nothing but fart apps. Seriously, I haven't seen one of those in many years.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Post by vor_ »

ninguem2 wrote: post #39
benihana wrote: post #12

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Could you imagine if people could make the kind of money developing things for Linux that they do developing things for iOS? It would make comments like yours kind of funny and relevant.

Android (Linux) has surpassed iOS in number of users worldwide.

But iOS users surpass Android users in web usage and other smartphone features. Android is essentially the default choice on cheap feature phones. It's often what one gets when there is no choice.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Post by shabble »

freehunter wrote: post #171
hrktb wrote: post #114

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It goes very deep in meta territory, but hey, it's not as if there were any fact intersting to discuss. I remember a lot of discussions a year or two ago when marco was very vocal about the reasons he didn't have comments on his blog, and would prefer to have all of these on HN for e.g. slowdown 's comment goes the other way round, on why HN should care about commenting on marco's blog. There is another thread [1] wi…

I've been checking on that post since it first came up looking for anything new, but old HN posts get to be hard to read for new stuff pretty quick, especially with no way to collapse a thread. If there was anything new, I'd be hard pressed to actually find it. That thread is quickly sliding down the list and is already off the front page. I don't think a new one is out of the question.

https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/138037

A way to navigate to new unread entries would be nice.

Sometimes I really wish NNTP wasn't quite so dead.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Post by vor_ »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #7

Could you imagine if the Linux Developer Center went down? It'd be nearly impossible to write Linux software, or download Linux development tools, or generate a Linux binary that a device was allowed to run. It'd be awful.

Haha, great troll, dudebro! Well, gonna go back to making money from iOS apps and running Linux on a backend server since I can still write software, download development tools, and generate binaries.
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