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Wow. This is the worst thing that could happen. Creating a Google+ account is such a travesty. It's such a waste of time and effort that could be better spent ranting on Hacker News. You should avoid everything Google. In principle, avoid any site that displays Google ads. By visiting ads, you're enabling Google to do all these evil things.
Note to web services businesses: give your users the option to have a local account, and give them an option to change from one 3rd party authenticator to another or to a local account.
This would be an ideal solution for this situation, but the problem remains: if I cannot authenticate via the 3rd party initially, the service has no way of knowing that I am actually the owner of the account. I am not sure what the working implementation of this looks like.
What's with the Google Derangement Syndrome on HN recently? Any change in any Google service prompts the same "I'm taking all my toys and going home" response. Google used to have a separate profile system just like profiles.yahoo.com, and like Yahoo, having lots of disparate services with weak unification was a problem. G+ is that unifying profile layer. Is it really beyond the pale for a service to prompt you to en…
You must be replying to the wrong post. This post is asking whether others have been asked to create a g+ account in order to log in using Google, not "I'm taking all my toys and going home" or whatever childish way you want to characterize people who are "deranged" about Google.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this was already in place for quite a while. Google has slowly been trying to move away form pseudonyms altogether and force Real Name policies like Facebook and things like YouTube, Blogger, Docs etc... were all slowly tied to one login system. This was a problem for me at first because I ended up with multiple accounts with no way to merge them together. But I believe they sta…
What's with the Google Derangement Syndrome on HN recently? Any change in any Google service prompts the same "I'm taking all my toys and going home" response. Google used to have a separate profile system just like profiles.yahoo.com, and like Yahoo, having lots of disparate services with weak unification was a problem. G+ is that unifying profile layer. Is it really beyond the pale for a service to prompt you to en…
You must be replying to the wrong post. This post is asking whether others have been asked to create a g+ account in order to log in using Google, not "I'm taking all my toys and going home" or whatever childish way you want to characterize people who are "deranged" about Google.
G+ is Google's centralized system for single-sign-on and account profiles. It used to be confusingly distributed over multiple services, now it is unified. Oh, and it has a news feed associated on it at plus.google.com that you can totally ignore if you want.
Some of the reactions to this are way over the top. I guess I'm burning karma points by posting this, but it is an annoying trend.
What's with the Google Derangement Syndrome on HN recently? Any change in any Google service prompts the same "I'm taking all my toys and going home" response. Google used to have a separate profile system just like profiles.yahoo.com, and like Yahoo, having lots of disparate services with weak unification was a problem. G+ is that unifying profile layer. Is it really beyond the pale for a service to prompt you to en…
No, it wasn't. It was very simple. You want an account for youtube, sign up on youtube, you want an account for something else - sign up there. You want your accounts to be the same login across all the services? Use the same login across all the services.
It wasn't confusing, it wasn't complex, it didn't present any problems to anyone of even moderate intelligence.
> Is it really beyond the pale for a service to prompt you to enter some optional information about yourself?
It's not really optional when they start tying everything together. I don't want my real name tied to any of my online activities - but if my google accounts were stuck together through google+ it would be, because I use my real name on my phone.
It's possible to lie of course, and tell a different lie with a different email address for every time you want to limit the degree to which different portions of your data contaminate other things. But it's a pain in the arse and only realistically possible because they're not enforcing their single sign on policy that strongly yet.
They're made it far more complicated to keep your privacy than it was before.
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You must be replying to the wrong post. This post is asking whether others have been asked to create a g+ account in order to log in using Google, not "I'm taking all my toys and going home" or whatever childish way you want to characterize people who are "deranged" about Google.
And how would you suggest that he reply to a growing trend that occurs as an aggregate across hundreds of disparate comments?
The defense that you can only half-participate in g+ is not much of a defense because 1) people may not want to support changes of that sort with their patronage lest it continue as a trend, and/or 2) the thing being objected to was a forced escalation of participation - why would a user assume this would be the last and that half-participation in g+ will remain an option?
It's just so they can brag about having more "active users" than Twitter/Facebook/whatever.
I used to review apps on the play store before it switched over to google+, and a number of the comment systems on websites I go to use it now so I don't comment on them anymore.
Some of this forced Google plus integrations they're doing are just getting ridiculous.