Today, I went to login to a service that I signed up for many months ago using my Google account. In the past, clicking the 'sign in with Google' button with authenticate against my Google account and immediately log me in. However, today, I was prompted to create a Google+ profile with no other option. In other words, either I could create a Google+ account, or I could fuck off and never use the service again... Anyone else encountering this?
Google login now requires Google+ Account
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#2It's time to dump Google. Alternatives: http://prism-break.org
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#3Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this was already in place for quite a while. Google has slowly been trying to move away form pseudonyms altogether and force Real Name policies like Facebook and things like YouTube, Blogger, Docs etc... were all slowly tied to one login system.
This was a problem for me at first because I ended up with multiple accounts with no way to merge them together. But I believe they started with YouTube.
I got an email saying they will deactivate/delete the account without verifying it (in this case "verify" was to create a Google account). I'm guessing this was only sent to accounts that hadn't uploaded any videos and mine had none at the time. A friend of mine also got the same email and she had no videos at the time either.
It makes sense from their end to create one account, but adding Google+ seems to be a case of forced adoption. I've used multiple gmail addresses and they've all prompted me to create a new G+ account whenever I logged in just to check the inbox. If I wanted to add another service, I've been hit with some sort of conflict message. I think Google is able to tell when the same person uses multiple gmail addresses.
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#4Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this was already in place for quite a while. Google has slowly been trying to move away form pseudonyms altogether and force Real Name policies like Facebook and things like YouTube, Blogger, Docs etc... were all slowly tied to one login system. This was a problem for me at first because I ended up with multiple accounts with no way to merge them together. But I believe they sta…
You may well be correct - I only noticed this now as most of the sites I frequent are not linked to my Google account. I know YouTube has been bugging me to put in a Real Name for a while, but I was never prompted before to create a fully fledged G+ profile (incl birth date, gender...)
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#6What's with the Google Derangement Syndrome on HN recently? Any change in any Google service prompts the same "I'm taking all my toys and going home" response.
Google used to have a separate profile system just like profiles.yahoo.com, and like Yahoo, having lots of disparate services with weak unification was a problem. G+ is that unifying profile layer. Is it really beyond the pale for a service to prompt you to enter some optional information about yourself? Yes, optional, as in, I have hundreds of followers on G+ with obviously bogus profiles. You don't have to use G+'s social feed, you don't have to friend anyone.
I personally barely use Twitter or Facebook, mostly as single-sign-on to forums and other sites.
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#7Note to web services businesses: give your users the option to have a local account, and give them an option to change from one 3rd party authenticator to another or to a local account.
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#8It's just so they can brag about having more "active users" than Twitter/Facebook/whatever.
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#9What's with the Google Derangement Syndrome on HN recently? Any change in any Google service prompts the same "I'm taking all my toys and going home" response. Google used to have a separate profile system just like profiles.yahoo.com, and like Yahoo, having lots of disparate services with weak unification was a problem. G+ is that unifying profile layer. Is it really beyond the pale for a service to prompt you to en…
It's either an unhealthy obsession with Google or just old fashioned astroturf. I have a third theory that since Matt Cutts started commenting here, he brought the SEO types with him, and they don't much care for fluctuating algorithms.
Anyways it's like no one cares about a standard util Google drops it, and somehow social becomes a sin when Google dabbles in it. Any Google bashing item or just expressed feigned outrage often shoots straight to the top of the main page.
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#10Most of my family members will sooner dump Gmail than create a Google+ account.