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Re: Why Nissan.com Isn’t a Car Website

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Post by k3n »

ebbv wrote: post #11

This post is clickbait with basically zero content. The story of Nissan.com is well known to anyone who's been around the web for long. After all the battle started in the '90s. This article is saying "The web is important! Nissan Motor Company wants to own nissan.com!" No shit.

I found it very informative, I mean Wikipedia[1] only gives a scant 140-ish word overview of the subject (and basically the same thing on the page for Nissan Computer itself), and though it does give 3 references, 2 of those are PDF's from the court judgements and the 3rd is an expired link to the USPTO. Oh yeah, Nissan.com[2] actually contains the most information, though it looks biased and sensational (to be expected). Otherwise, I'm not finding just a whole lot of recent information about this out there. I see a Wired article from 2001, and a Salon article from 2002, but other than that the chatter is few and far between.

Meanwhile, the site that OP's article was posted on is "the course website for the suite of law & technology courses at Yale University offered by Elizabeth Stark and Brad Rosen" (which is apparently CPSC 183, 184, 185 at Yale University). Publish date of the piece was 2011. So as far as sources go, I'm not sure how much better you could get than this. Not even a single ad, and right under 500 words, which is a nice size for a short take on the subject.

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan#Nissan_Motor_Co_v._Nissa...

2. http://www.nissan.com/Digest/The_Story.php

Re: Why Nissan.com Isn’t a Car Website

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Post by Hrundi »

jusben1369 wrote: post #2

Lost in this overview (and I couldn't really tell the point of the overview) are the probably 10 000 + people per year who go to this site by mistake. It's odd to me that Nissan didn't just offer him those 7 figures worth of legal fees and solve it (or maybe they did to no effect)

This reminds me of the domain http://steam.com, which has the following text in the frontpage:

"This domain is not for sale."

I'm sure Valve could drop a ton of money to aquire that domain.

Re: Why Nissan.com Isn’t a Car Website

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Post by abjr »

laurent123456 wrote: post #22

> a final injunction which allowed Nissan Computer Corporation to maintain control of the domains Nissan.com and Nissan.net so long as it neither advertised nor mentioned/made disparaging comments about Nissan Motor. First thing I see on nissan.com is a massive "Nissan's motor lawsuite against us" with crossed Nissan logos and "it could happen to you too", then a massive ad below this. Doesn't Nissan have a case that…

No. He no longer has to refrain from posting or linking to disparaging remarks about Nissan.

"Injunctive relief may not restrain Nissan Computer from placing links on nissan.com and nissan.net to other sites that post negative commentary about Nissan Motor; to this extent, the relief granted is overbroad, reaches non-commercial speech, and runs afoul of the FTDA and the First Amendment."

Source: Last page of http://www.citizen.org/documents/CourtofAppealsRulingNissanM...

Re: Why Nissan.com Isn’t a Car Website

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Post by 8ig8 »

fsck--off wrote: post #8

Wow. I think the source code belongs in The Daily WTF. Just look at this gem: People's Opinions   Page 1 Page 2 Page 3 (Snipped about 500 lines) page 503 page 504 page 505

True, but also keep in mind the site is still up with this spike in traffic.

Must be Varnish, Nginx, CDN edge servers, sprites, gzip, pre-fetching and efficient CSS selectors.

Re: Why Nissan.com Isn’t a Car Website

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Post by ebbv »

k3n wrote: post #31
ebbv wrote: post #11

This post is clickbait with basically zero content. The story of Nissan.com is well known to anyone who's been around the web for long. After all the battle started in the '90s. This article is saying "The web is important! Nissan Motor Company wants to own nissan.com!" No shit.

I found it very informative, I mean Wikipedia[1] only gives a scant 140-ish word overview of the subject (and basically the same thing on the page for Nissan Computer itself), and though it does give 3 references, 2 of those are PDF's from the court judgements and the 3rd is an expired link to the USPTO. Oh yeah, Nissan.com[2] actually contains the most information, though it looks biased and sensational (to be expec…

This entire article can be boiled down to:

"Hey did you know Nissan Motors doesn't own nissan.com?"

"They don't? Wow."

Everything about it is obvious. It's providing no content. The fact that the site has no ads and is made by reputable people means nothing. It's still just an old (and very simple) story with no new information or insight added.

The reason you're not finding much/anything out there is like I said this story started in the '90s, everybody already knows about it except people who weren't around then, and even so, there's not much to tell.

This is an anecdote, not an informative article.

Re: Why Nissan.com Isn’t a Car Website

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Post by [deleted] »

badclient wrote: post #23
jusben1369 wrote: post #2

Lost in this overview (and I couldn't really tell the point of the overview) are the probably 10 000 + people per year who go to this site by mistake. It's odd to me that Nissan didn't just offer him those 7 figures worth of legal fees and solve it (or maybe they did to no effect)

I've actually met the guy and did some contract work for him. After hearing the story from his mouth, what stuck with me is his utter dislike for the Nissan CEO and Arabs. He seemed very passionate about Israel and cited Nissan's Arab CEO as a huge part of why he dislikes that company.

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Re: Why Nissan.com Isn’t a Car Website

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Post by ebbv »

cantankerous wrote: post #15
ebbv wrote: post #11

This post is clickbait with basically zero content. The story of Nissan.com is well known to anyone who's been around the web for long. After all the battle started in the '90s. This article is saying "The web is important! Nissan Motor Company wants to own nissan.com!" No shit.

Hadn't heard about it until now. I've been around the web for, I dunno, two decades. Seems interesting enough.

Ok so great you missed it, maybe you were sick that week. But it was all over in the late 90s and early 00s, and there's no new developments and no new insight in this post.

Re: Why Nissan.com Isn’t a Car Website

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Post by okwa »

damian2000 wrote: post #16
jsumrall wrote: post #5

I looked at nissan.com, and its a shame that the site is basically internet trash and lame ads.

It looks like it was created in FrontPage 98. That said, the buttons on the left work and he is actually running a small business selling computer products and services (such as programming @ $90/hr).

The HTML source says FrontPage 4.0, but Wikipedia says there was no version 4 [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_FrontPage#Versions

Re: Why Nissan.com Isn’t a Car Website

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Post by [deleted] »

badclient wrote: post #23
jusben1369 wrote: post #2

Lost in this overview (and I couldn't really tell the point of the overview) are the probably 10 000 + people per year who go to this site by mistake. It's odd to me that Nissan didn't just offer him those 7 figures worth of legal fees and solve it (or maybe they did to no effect)

I've actually met the guy and did some contract work for him. After hearing the story from his mouth, what stuck with me is his utter dislike for the Nissan CEO and Arabs. He seemed very passionate about Israel and cited Nissan's Arab CEO as a huge part of why he dislikes that company.

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