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Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Another alternative is http://www.runbox.com/ - hosted entirely in Norway which has strong privacy laws.

Is Runbox still storing account passwords in plain text?

They looked like a great option but when I set up an account recently they emailed me my username and password in plain text. I cancelled immediately but if they get the security basics right I may look at it again.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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American company, American servers, American jurisdiction. Sure they won't read your email, but the NSA will (just like Gmail.) Update: hmm, so Opera aren't american? interesting. All the servers are definitely in the US though: > "we have standard servers and a high speed connection in the US." - https://www.fastmail.fm/help/overview_about.html

This is kinda going to a different direction than the article.

http://www.maxmasnick.com/2013/07/19/fastmail/#fn:1 "This may be a deal breaker if you’re concerned about government spying. "

I believe that Fastmail is a valid option if your main problem is with Ads and the fact that Google might be reading all your mails and companies are buying this big data to sell you better services / more targeted Ads around the web.

I'm currently switching to Fastmail because I don't believe in free lunch and I won't stand for it anymore.

If I want to make sure no one is reading my mails, then I have a problem. Most governments are doing this and we can't do much about. If I need privacy, then I use GPG.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GGP started off by saying: > American company… Then, noticing the critical error, the GP said: > Fastmail is owned by Opera a Norwegian company. Replying to the American company part. > You said: Their servers are located in the US according to the article. So, the servers location have nothing to do with whether the company is American or not. And while that might have a bearing on certain facets of the topic as…

The point wasn't if the company was American, but if the NSA will have the reach to read your emails and with American servers, I believe it does.

So then why was it the first point in the GPs post? And the fact that it's not American means that it could offer hosting outside of America and provide better protection than an American company hosting outside of America.

Believing that it being an American company or not is not important is silly.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Snowden used lavabit.com, which is located in the US (and probably being scrutinized a bit more than usual these days).

I think it's more important to diversify services than to insist on airtight alternatives. My mail is not terribly exciting, but when combined with the rest of my searches, visited webpages [1], chats, news reading habits, social network connections, and phone location, all housed under Google's roof, it seems like I'm making it easier to piece together my life [2]. At least make it a little difficult by having to go to separate companies with court orders.

[1] And web developers contribute to the surveillance by installing analytics code.

[2] That of course is the Google AI wet dream, moar data.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GGP started off by saying: > American company… Then, noticing the critical error, the GP said: > Fastmail is owned by Opera a Norwegian company. Replying to the American company part. > You said: Their servers are located in the US according to the article. So, the servers location have nothing to do with whether the company is American or not. And while that might have a bearing on certain facets of the topic as…

And while that might have a bearing on certain facets of the topic as a whole As in, the actual point, which is that your e-mails are liable to be searched by the NSA.

You mean, not the first point brought up by the GP, was which to say wrongly that it was an American company?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Fastmail moved servers outside the US, then it would be in a better position as a non-US company than if it was a US company with servers outside the US?

Despite what some might believe, where a company operates from is actually important, regardless of where the servers are hosted.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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post #124

Tried fastmail and wasn't impressed. Rackspace email is a great choice. Its cheap and fast. Outages are rare. Has active sync support and IMAP push works on android/iPhone. Rackspace also allows you to run exchange mailboxes alongside IMAP if you have a few users who are still tied to outlook.

What were your issues with fastmail?

It was two years ago so it may be better now. I had a number of mailboxes to migrate (~200). Their mass input tool didn't work. No timely response to a ticket opened on it.

Additionally it seemed like they were chasing the smaller accounts. Whenever I consulted the help/documentation it focused on the converting the 1-5 user shops into paid accounts. There wasn't many resources for someone who walked in expecting to pay $2k/month. I had to dig for details. Eventually I created a paid account just to test all the details.

Contrast that with rackspace where everything worked smoothly out of the box. Any limitations were spelled out clearly. In general it felt like all my needs were anticipated. In two years with them I've opened maybe three tickets all solved exceedingly fast.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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> However, along these lines the removal of Jabber support > from Gmail is a little bit scary (first they removed > federation support, then they killed it altogether) Federation support was temporarily disabled, then re-enabled once they got spam filtering in place. Currently, XMPP works perfectly with a Gmail account.

I wasn't aware of that. I actually ran into federation issues a few months ago, but maybe it has been fixed since then. My understanding is that upgrading to Hangouts still disables the old XMPP support.

  > My understanding is that upgrading to Hangouts still
  > disables the old XMPP support.
Sort of; the web interface will connect to either Hangouts or XMPP, but not both at once. XMPP continues to work fine for non-web clients, such as Pidgin.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Am I the only one here that doesn't care about Gmail ads? I don't even notice them.

I don't really care either -- it's a free service that I'm able to access on pretty much any web-accessible device on the planet. Sometimes maintaining a service like that requires a way to pay the bills (FastMail is a paid service.)

Why would I be 'uncomfortable' with ads? Sometimes I feel like the issue with ads in Google/other services falls victim to the 'Nickelback Effect', where a few other very vocal people hate the subject at hand and it spreads virally to the point where people can't describe why they hated the subject in the first place.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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I just bloody switched to fastmail because I thought it was Australian - and unfortunately I really like it. Gutted to hear it's hosted in USA, kinda negates the point of my effort switching away.

You think Australia isn't a surveillance state?

Not the kind that drones you, mate.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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American company, American servers, American jurisdiction. Sure they won't read your email, but the NSA will (just like Gmail.) Update: hmm, so Opera aren't american? interesting. All the servers are definitely in the US though: > "we have standard servers and a high speed connection in the US." - https://www.fastmail.fm/help/overview_about.html

Only S/MIME, PGP or similarly encrypted mail messages are secure. All other mail is routed through various servers which may or may not use an encrypted connection. It's like trusting the post office to never read your mail (which they have the authority to do if they perceive some kind of safety threat). Encrypt the message contents if you care for message privacy.

If you want sender/receiver privacy too, you can try using Tor hidden services direct to the individual. I can't think of any other way off the top of my head to send SMTP mail and completely conceal the recipient(s).

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