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Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by jmillikin »

masnick wrote: post #30
maaaats wrote: post #22

For me, it's not that I'm afraid of GMail removing IMAP, it's that Gmail IMAP works really, really bad. For an email-client to work well with Gmail, it has to be tailored to Gmail, and that has given me some issues lately. For instance, most of my mail is sorted into labels, skipping the inbox. When using a mail client with IMAP, these labels shows as folders. Deleting the mail from my client, doesn't delete it from…

I agree that IMAP will probably stick around in some form. My big concern is if they start doing some kind of rate limiting, it could make it very difficult to get all your email out. However, along these lines the removal of Jabber support from Gmail is a little bit scary (first they removed federation support, then they killed it altogether). Limiting or removing IMAP is not outside the realm of possibilities.

  > However, along these lines the removal of Jabber support
  > from Gmail is a little bit scary (first they removed
  > federation support, then they killed it altogether)
Federation support was temporarily disabled, then re-enabled once they got spam filtering in place. Currently, XMPP works perfectly with a Gmail account.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by johnpowell »

jeffasinger wrote: post #105
maqr wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about backups? I don't worry about Gmail backing up my email (though I probably should), but is there some way to get iRedMail to send encrypted backups to S3 regularly or something?

Backups every few days on a DO server like that costs about $1/mo I believe.

They just started charging for back-ups this month on DO. It is 20% of the cost of the droplet. So on a 512MB VM it is a dollar a month.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by johngalt »

Tried fastmail and wasn't impressed. Rackspace email is a great choice. Its cheap and fast. Outages are rare. Has active sync support and IMAP push works on android/iPhone.

Rackspace also allows you to run exchange mailboxes alongside IMAP if you have a few users who are still tied to outlook.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by conorh »

johngalt wrote: post #123

Tried fastmail and wasn't impressed. Rackspace email is a great choice. Its cheap and fast. Outages are rare. Has active sync support and IMAP push works on android/iPhone. Rackspace also allows you to run exchange mailboxes alongside IMAP if you have a few users who are still tied to outlook.

What were your issues with fastmail?

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by vsvn »

These kind of posts are useless at most. Lets say 2 months from now FastMail is doing 90% of the things the author didn't like. What then? Switch to yahoo and then do another post why I switched to Yahoo?

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by masnick »

dalks wrote: post #108

This is a false dichotomy and an unfair one. Firstly, fastmail is a paid product that may show you graphic ads if you are using their free tier. ( https://www.fastmail.fm/help/advertising_web_interface_ads.h... ) To those who are arguing about advertisements not showing up in the Fastmail's paid tiers should also realize that there is the Google Apps for Business accounts, where you don't see ads. It also beats the p…

There is no longer a free tier for FastMail.

As I mention in my post, Google Apps is a lot of overhead for just email. There are additional complexities with switching from gmail to google apps because of the integration with all other google services.

If someone was interested in switching from gmail to a paid service, I would argue that FastMail may be a better choice than Google Apps.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by masnick »

jmillikin wrote: post #121
masnick wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that IMAP will probably stick around in some form. My big concern is if they start doing some kind of rate limiting, it could make it very difficult to get all your email out. However, along these lines the removal of Jabber support from Gmail is a little bit scary (first they removed federation support, then they killed it altogether). Limiting or removing IMAP is not outside the realm of possibilities.

> However, along these lines the removal of Jabber support > from Gmail is a little bit scary (first they removed > federation support, then they killed it altogether) Federation support was temporarily disabled, then re-enabled once they got spam filtering in place. Currently, XMPP works perfectly with a Gmail account.

I wasn't aware of that. I actually ran into federation issues a few months ago, but maybe it has been fixed since then.

My understanding is that upgrading to Hangouts still disables the old XMPP support.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by yapcguy »

adestefan wrote: post #7
tehwalrus wrote: post #5

American company, American servers, American jurisdiction. Sure they won't read your email, but the NSA will (just like Gmail.) Update: hmm, so Opera aren't american? interesting. All the servers are definitely in the US though: > "we have standard servers and a high speed connection in the US." - https://www.fastmail.fm/help/overview_about.html

Fastmail is owned by Opera a Norwegian company. Nice try though to inject a completely worthless comment.

Although Facebook were looking to buy Opera last year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/29/facebook-opera_n_15...

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by robszumski »

maxsilver wrote: post #68

Is there any service like FastMail, with a FastMail-like quality web interface, that offers ActiveSync support? I don't mind paying a little extra to cover the licensing. But I don't want to be stuck with IMAP again -- the biggest draw for service for me is the "Contacts + Calendar + Tasks + Mail" instant syncing of something like ActiveSync. Rackspace E-mail comes closest from what I've tried. But being stuck on Out…

You can use ActiveSync with Rackspace Email: http://www.rackspace.com/email-hosting/webmail/mobile-phone/
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