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House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing

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Re: House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing

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Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage. But what the British government did with chemical castration to Alan Turing and others is absolutely reprehensible - and they should pardon all of them. Let's not conflate these issues please.

No, let's. If homosexuals should be allowed to experience their sexuality than why not permit them to fulfill their emotional, romantic, and other needs? It's such an artificial line to draw and we certainly can discuss both gay marriage and the legality of homosexuality in the same discussion.

Re: House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing

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post #10

Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage. But what the British government did with chemical castration to Alan Turing and others is absolutely reprehensible - and they should pardon all of them. Let's not conflate these issues please.

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Re: House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing

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post #13
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Shouldn't all people punished under criminalization of homosexuality be retrospectively pardoned?

This is possibly why Turing isn't pardoned - it'll open the doors for all the (living) homosexuals who were convicted to make compensation claims.

And they should be able to do exactly that.

Re: House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing

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post #10

Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage. But what the British government did with chemical castration to Alan Turing and others is absolutely reprehensible - and they should pardon all of them. Let's not conflate these issues please.

> Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage. From your past comments, you appear to be American. I am therefore ecstatic to inform you that you are in the minority. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/09/support-...

I said majority of people, not Americans. My statement stands correct. Look at what other countries have done to recently stem gay culture: Russia recently passed a unanimous (436-0) vote which banned gay propaganda[1]. Homosexuals acceptance is pushed hard in the western media, but don't let that skew your worldview. Reactionary responses are not uncommon.

[1] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/11/russia-law-banni...

Re: House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is possibly why Turing isn't pardoned - it'll open the doors for all the (living) homosexuals who were convicted to make compensation claims.

And they should be able to do exactly that.

And the fact that haven't means it isn't about justice after all.

Re: House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage. From your past comments, you appear to be American. I am therefore ecstatic to inform you that you are in the minority. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/09/support-...

I said majority of people, not Americans. My statement stands correct. Look at what other countries have done to recently stem gay culture: Russia recently passed a unanimous (436-0) vote which banned gay propaganda[1]. Homosexuals acceptance is pushed hard in the western media, but don't let that skew your worldview. Reactionary responses are not uncommon. [1] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/11/russia-law-b…

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Re: House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing

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post #21
post #10

Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage. But what the British government did with chemical castration to Alan Turing and others is absolutely reprehensible - and they should pardon all of them. Let's not conflate these issues please.

No, let's. If homosexuals should be allowed to experience their sexuality than why not permit them to fulfill their emotional, romantic, and other needs? It's such an artificial line to draw and we certainly can discuss both gay marriage and the legality of homosexuality in the same discussion.

The problem arises that the legality of marriage was designed around traditional families. There's nothing that stops homosexuals from fulfilling their emotional, romantic, and other needs. But when you involved tax deductions because children are such an expensive commitment, it gets hairy. I do support civil unions (but not gay adoption), and I am tolerant of gays (I discuss these issues with friends who are gay), but to change the very definition of marriage goes too far - and ends up confusing everyone.

Re: House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing

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post #10

Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage. But what the British government did with chemical castration to Alan Turing and others is absolutely reprehensible - and they should pardon all of them. Let's not conflate these issues please.

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