If it was wrong to prosecute Alan Turing for being gay, and right to pardon him, then they should pardon every other gay man convicted of homosexual acts.
House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing
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#12If it was wrong to prosecute Alan Turing for being gay, and right to pardon him, then they should pardon every other gay man convicted of homosexual acts.
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#13Shouldn't all people punished under criminalization of homosexuality be retrospectively pardoned?
This is possibly why Turing isn't pardoned - it'll open the doors for all the (living) homosexuals who were convicted to make compensation claims.
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#14If I remember correctly, the last time this came up, they gave a good reason for not pardoning him. They knew that he was innocent, and that the government of the time had wronged him. Still, they refused to give a pardon. Not because they agreed with the actions against Turing, but because they felt that pardoning him would be an attempt to cover up their mistreatment of him. They refused to pardon him, because it w…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16919012 The explanation given was that the law was wrong, not that he hadn't broken it so as to have a pardon, and you can't posthumously commute a sentence
I agree to some extent - it's not for the Lords to pardon Turing, but the other way around - but that's really a matter of semantics in a sense.
Perhaps there ought to be an equivalent "pardon" set up called "beg forgiveness".
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#15Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage. But what the British government did with chemical castration to Alan Turing and others is absolutely reprehensible - and they should pardon all of them. Let's not conflate these issues please.
> Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage.
That is factually incorrect. The majority of the population support marriage equality.
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#16Pardoning him explicitly seems ridiculous. Either pardon everyone as a statement that you find the law abhorrent or don't pardon anyone and allow the shame to guide further decisions.
Pardoning the popular examples just hides what you did, it doesn't acknowledge fault or error.
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#17It's about bloody time.
Re: House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing
#18Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage. But what the British government did with chemical castration to Alan Turing and others is absolutely reprehensible - and they should pardon all of them. Let's not conflate these issues please.
> Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage.
From your past comments, you appear to be American. I am therefore ecstatic to inform you that you are in the minority.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/09/support-...
Re: House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing
#19Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage. But what the British government did with chemical castration to Alan Turing and others is absolutely reprehensible - and they should pardon all of them. Let's not conflate these issues please.
This has nothing to do with marriage, and the punishment wasn't the worst factor.
Re: House of Lords debates pardon for Alan Turing
#20Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage. But what the British government did with chemical castration to Alan Turing and others is absolutely reprehensible - and they should pardon all of them. Let's not conflate these issues please.
> Like the majority of people, I oppose gay marriage. That is factually incorrect. The majority of the population support marriage equality.
Depends on how you define population. If I were to gamble on it, I would expect a (rather high) margin in opposition, with support rates highly correlated to education levels.