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Study Finds Spatial Skill Is Early Sign of Creativity

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Re: Study Finds Spatial Skill Is Early Sign of Creativity

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Would you be able to elaborate on "algebraical vs geometrical" thinking? I've noticed myself that there are two types of "math" that people tend to be good at: 1) Algorithmic - Following a set of steps to achieve a particular result. Algorithms, discrete math, "compsci" math, and procedural and OO programming. Coders tend to be good at this kind. 2) "Abstract" - "Pure Math", what I would label as the harder kind of m…

I know that I personally am much stronger with algebraic math than geometrical math. For me, that means that integrals, linear algebra, etc are something that I'm strong at, but I'm poor at anything that requires spatial reasoning. That's different from your two types. For example, take your "calculating the intersection of planes." I would approach that by first writing the algebraic equations that define the two pl…

Yea, this is a good illustration.

For example, for an intersection of two planes going through origin, the plane equation coefficients are (a multiple of) the of the normal vector coefficients. Now, the intersection vector must be perpendicular to both planes normals, so if you take the cross product of the two vectors, you get the intersection vector.

This in this case I would just look at it and instantly do a cross product of the coefficients, whereas you would eventually do precisely the same, but reasoning algebraically, perhaps just as fast.

In this case, thinking algebraically doesn't seem to yield the intimate relationship with your object of study required for creativity, just because of the geometric nature of it.

But this reasoning wouldn't be much use in -- for instance -- fiddling with discrete mathematics, where you may get more intimate precisely by reasoning algebraically!

Re: Study Finds Spatial Skill Is Early Sign of Creativity

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What I find intriguing is that creativity really develops from giving it time to develop. i.e. If I just tackle a problem as I know how to from my own point of view, I'm probably going to do it as straight forwardly as possible, anything that has a definite solution I'll answer first and I'll do that ad nauseum (perhaps w/ research inbetween, but we're not talking creative research, just more fact checking) until the problem is finished. On the other hand, if you are willing to you can probably sit, think the problem over, and let a solution develop. You might have to forget preconceived ideas that you had, perhaps think in a new way, but it's possible. Either way you'll probably get to a solution, but my real point is, creativity is as much a matter of willingness as anything else, I mean you just can't turn off your thoughts, you can really only direct them. ...I'll admit I havn't read the article, but I'm always curious about these discussions of creativity, why is it an isssue? How do you know someone isn't being creative? Because they don't take your approach? How do you teach someone to be creative, show them how you would do it? I think the only common denominator for creativity, is how much effort you're willing to give it.

Re: Study Finds Spatial Skill Is Early Sign of Creativity

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13-year-olds [...] particularly gifted [...] spatial relations skills, the ability to visualize and manipulate two-and three-dimensional objects.

Hah! True story. As a 13 year old, I met my first girlfriend over a 28.8k local BBS link and, other than occasionally meeting in person, we generally proceeded to create raw Povray source files with constructive solid geometry using plain text editors, and exchange the raytraced renderings. They weren't super complex scenes, but they were complex enough when you remember that rendering a single frame took half an hour!

PS. I often wonder if shoving kids in to boring boxy apartments (as is presently happening the world over) is not depriving them of spatial stimulation... a forest is infinitely more spatially complex than the built environment.

Re: Study Finds Spatial Skill Is Early Sign of Creativity

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A similar conclusion struck me when I was taking a linear algebra course in my 1st year. I had a very smart friend, and sometimes I studied with him. He usually studied a lot more than myself, and naturally fared a lot better (and more consistently). However there were some problems which were very unusual which I would look at, think for just a few seconds, and have a delightful path to the solution -- and often tim…

Would you be able to elaborate on "algebraical vs geometrical" thinking? I've noticed myself that there are two types of "math" that people tend to be good at: 1) Algorithmic - Following a set of steps to achieve a particular result. Algorithms, discrete math, "compsci" math, and procedural and OO programming. Coders tend to be good at this kind. 2) "Abstract" - "Pure Math", what I would label as the harder kind of m…

There was an essay from an extremely famous mathematician that I read not a long time ago on analytical vs geometrical oriented thinking in mathematics and I can't recall where it is and it is driving me crazy. If anyone knows what it is, please link it.

Re: Study Finds Spatial Skill Is Early Sign of Creativity

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Is tokenadult related to the downvotes? I don't think so since someone with experience in HN will be more polite. I would to didcover the name of the downvoters.

In the interests of being polite, you are getting downvoted because you've made almost half the posts in a 15 comment thread, the bulk of which are complaints that your comments aren't better received. The theme of the article is that research has revealed spatial reasoning plays a larger role in intelligence than we previously thought. Your post that you are sick and tired of people searching for the sole cause of i…

The weird thing is that I never experienced this rage in my long time in HN. I understand the first downvote but not engaging in a "downvote hunt" without saying something. So I think the person/people involved in more than two downvotes is an HN outlier.

Re: Study Finds Spatial Skill Is Early Sign of Creativity

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People who downvote without adding a reply...

You received (now) a kind and thoughtful reply about why your top-level reply was deemed not constructive for the current discussion. (I didn't vote on that comment. Certainly I did not downvote it.) Subsequent comments bringing up solely the issue of being downvoted are being downvoted on sight, because those sorts of comments are never constructive to the discussion and are disfavored by the site guidelines. http:/…

I understand your explanation but I think people can also talk, this is an important step towards peace.

Also, I never seen this rage in my past engagements in HN, so I think it's very rare to receive this series of downvotes without engaging in a short talk.

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