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Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by papsosouid »

devcpp wrote: post #106
untog wrote: post #59

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At the risk of starting a device war, I'd agree with everything you've said, except that Android does a lot of those important things better still. Maps in particular- Google Maps is utterly unparalleled. But it's all down to the user- I have no requirement for Remote Desktop support, so that doesn't matter to me. I don't use OneNote or Office, and use Dropbox for file syncing.

So none of you guys cares about openness, uh? Too bad, if more people, we wouldn't have the problem of closed platforms to begin with.

There is an open platform for phones?

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Post by tommaxwell »

untog wrote: post #74
gebe wrote: post #66

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Nokia Maps is _amazing_ and has been since the Symbian days, even more so by the fact that you can download maps beforehand (whole countries) and use them offline. Utterly unparalleled might be a bit harsh.

Last time I tried Nokia Maps (on a WP7 device probably a year ago, admittedly) I tried searching for a nearby location by entering a partial address. It failed. I tried searching for a cross street without using name suffixes. It failed. Point is, everyone has different needs from a Maps app. I don't drive, so don't need navigation. I just need to enter an address quickly and find out where it is, so offline download…

I don't drive either, so walking/public transit directions are INTEGRAL to my survival. I haven't played with a Windows Phone in almost two years, though.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by gcr »

cscheid wrote: post #158
akruckus wrote: post #147

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The big issue with not previously including WebGL support was glaring security issues right? Doesn't WebGL essentially use root access to your gpu?

> Doesn't WebGL essentially use root access to your gpu? Only in badly-designed, non-conformant user agents. :) The WebGL security issues have, for at least a year, been FUD. The spec is essentially fixed, drivers have become a whole lot better, and browsers have become a whole lot stricter in their validation code. WebGL is not OpenGL nor OpenGL ES. Examples: while the OpenGL ES spec is silent on buffer overflows, W…

Except on Linux. As an anecdote, as recently as January, visiting any WebGL sites that used any shaders would reliably panic my kernel with NVidia hardware and the NVidia binary blob. I then switched to Intel hardware which is much more stable but also shows how much variance there is here.

For me to be comfortable with WebGL, we'll have to really train graphics card manufacturers to take security issues as seriously as web developers do. That isn't going to happen any time soon.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by slantyyz »

drdaeman wrote: post #170
slantyyz wrote: post #85

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You don't need to print to see the improvements the oversampled images provide. You should see much cleaner images, especially in low light. These are noticeable even at Facebook level resolutions. Anyone who has used a real camera would know that.

There's completely no point in such sensor if lens are not providing equally high resolution image too. Unless you're into shooting Airy disks (though, I don't think the phone will provide raw sensor data). That is, the whole 41MP thing is, mostly, PR bullshit.

Well, this camera's spiritual predecessor, the 808 seemed to shoot high megapixel images just fine. The Verge's 100% crops of the 34MP images look fine to me.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/25/3113460/nokia-808-pureview...

edit: DPReview gave the 808's camera and IQ a glowing review also. http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8083837371/review-nokia-808...

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by papsosouid »

ebbv wrote: post #14

They ruined the design of the old Lumia for the benefit of a better camera. Who's really clamoring for that? And who's willing to pay $299.99 with 2 year contract for it? Nokia really doesn't know what they're doing.

>Who's really clamoring for that?

Me. It is absolutely absurd that I have to carry around a separate phone and camera.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by slantyyz »

mmanfrin wrote: post #160
slantyyz wrote: post #119

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What HTC did do a good job of was branding their pixels as "Ultrapixels". I see that branding used on all the major tech blogs when mentioning the HTC One's camera. Nokia's making the mistake of pushing a camera with specs that isn't easily understood by many people, and from the looks of it, that seems to include people who consider themselves photographers. I tend to think that the 41 megapixel count will turn off…

I sincerely doubt that people looking at the highest-end cost of phones will be thinking 'Why do I need [feature x]?'.

Yeah, but they'll look at that less-than-beautiful hump on the back and ask if that hump is worth the extra megapixels.

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Post by hbharadwaj »

300bps wrote: post #114
sp332 wrote: post #71

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How do you do remote desktop? I've used WP8 for a while and haven't found one that's even decent.

I use RemoteDesktop from Topperware. The mouse and keyboard UI work very well for me.

Teamviewer is present as well.

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Post by lettergram »

untog wrote: post #59
300bps wrote: post #56

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I've had the Lumia 928 for 3 weeks now. My three previous phones were iPhone 3G, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s. Part of me wishes that I would've gone Windows Phone sooner but the realistic part of me realizes that Windows Phone 7 was still nowhere near the quality of iOS. Windows Phone 8 is a completely different matter though. It's superior to my old iPhones in almost every way. Live tiles, SkyDrive integration (much bett…

At the risk of starting a device war, I'd agree with everything you've said, except that Android does a lot of those important things better still. Maps in particular- Google Maps is utterly unparalleled. But it's all down to the user- I have no requirement for Remote Desktop support, so that doesn't matter to me. I don't use OneNote or Office, and use Dropbox for file syncing.

I was working at jimmy johns as a driver about four months ago. One of the drivers there had a Nokia phone, I had an android, and obviously delivering you often get addresses that are sometimes slightly incorrect etc. Google maps never failed me, the windows phone guy would get lost constantly. I don't know why, could be just bad driving, but one thing that the google maps seemed to be better at was determining the location of businesses and for traffic and TRAINS (since the town I was in had 2 different tracks).

In short, I'd have to agree that google maps is unparalleled (important to note that the iPhone people didn't even bother using their maps).

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by probably_wrong »

ing33k wrote: post #47

I am a huge fan of android , but using wp since the past 3 months, I hope that people who comment badly about wp will use it once before complaining about it.

I'm using WP 7, I think. In no particular order,

* Entering text beyond 5 lines is a nightmare, as lag increases wich each keypress

* No Skype unless I unlock it

* In that venue: locked phone, requires a substantial amount of money to develop on it

* Taking a picture has a 5% chance of hanging the whole camera, requiring a restart. Also: no timer for the camera

* No connection under Linux, as the USB upgrade was not backported to my version of WP, and it doesn't plug as a regular USB drive. I'm guessing support for my phone is gone, which should also be added to the list.

* Can't remove the USB card (explicitly forbidden in the manual). Uploading media requires the installation of Zune. Yep, you read that right, Zune

* No way of changing the default search engine

* Cannot edit playlists for music, which BTW must be created with Zune while plugged onto my PC

I'm glad you are glad with your WP, but implying that anyone who complains about it is doing it just for the sake of it is, IMHO, a bit misleading.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by hbharadwaj »

Metrop0218 wrote: post #169
znowi wrote: post #126

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If you can wait until the fall, there are rumors that the next Nexus will feature some fancy pants camera.

I doubt it can top this though.

True - I doubt that any of the hardware manufacturers for Android have the technology to top what Nokia did with Lumia 1020. Nokia is completely invested in camera unlike HTC, Samsung, Motorola etc.,
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