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Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by sp332 »

300bps wrote: post #56
untog wrote: post #2

As someone who takes a lot of photos with my phone, this interests me a lot. Though as someone who has previously used Windows Phone, I'm very skeptical about going back to it. This is the first device that makes me wonder about Nokia's WP-exclusive decision. They didn't go with Android to avoid becoming "yet another" Android manufacturer, and I agree with that sentiment (look at how few are turning a profit). Howeve…

I've had the Lumia 928 for 3 weeks now. My three previous phones were iPhone 3G, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s. Part of me wishes that I would've gone Windows Phone sooner but the realistic part of me realizes that Windows Phone 7 was still nowhere near the quality of iOS. Windows Phone 8 is a completely different matter though. It's superior to my old iPhones in almost every way. Live tiles, SkyDrive integration (much bett…

How do you do remote desktop? I've used WP8 for a while and haven't found one that's even decent.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by danmaz74 »

untog wrote: post #57
danmaz74 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree completely, and in my opinion the stated reason not to go with Android - ie "being different" - is moot, when you consider that every phone maker can make windows phones too. Having a differentiation that you can't protect at all is not worth having many less apps to offer.

I agree completely, and in my opinion the stated reason not to go with Android - ie "being different" - is moot, when you consider that every phone maker can make windows phones too. They can, but they don't. And Nokia is indisputably the king of Windows Phone world, even though HTC have created some perfectly great devices. It's unlikely that Nokia could ever topple Samsung from the Android top spot.

You can be sure that they will, if WP will get traction thanks to Nokia.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by sp332 »

gebe wrote: post #66
untog wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the risk of starting a device war, I'd agree with everything you've said, except that Android does a lot of those important things better still. Maps in particular- Google Maps is utterly unparalleled. But it's all down to the user- I have no requirement for Remote Desktop support, so that doesn't matter to me. I don't use OneNote or Office, and use Dropbox for file syncing.

Nokia Maps is _amazing_ and has been since the Symbian days, even more so by the fact that you can download maps beforehand (whole countries) and use them offline. Utterly unparalleled might be a bit harsh.

Google Maps can download maps beforehand, but for some reason it won't let you plan a route without an internet connection. Probably because their route-finding algorithm would crush a phone or something :)

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by untog »

gebe wrote: post #66
untog wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the risk of starting a device war, I'd agree with everything you've said, except that Android does a lot of those important things better still. Maps in particular- Google Maps is utterly unparalleled. But it's all down to the user- I have no requirement for Remote Desktop support, so that doesn't matter to me. I don't use OneNote or Office, and use Dropbox for file syncing.

Nokia Maps is _amazing_ and has been since the Symbian days, even more so by the fact that you can download maps beforehand (whole countries) and use them offline. Utterly unparalleled might be a bit harsh.

Last time I tried Nokia Maps (on a WP7 device probably a year ago, admittedly) I tried searching for a nearby location by entering a partial address. It failed. I tried searching for a cross street without using name suffixes. It failed.

Point is, everyone has different needs from a Maps app. I don't drive, so don't need navigation. I just need to enter an address quickly and find out where it is, so offline downloads don't really do anything for me.

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Post by Metrop0218 »

untog wrote: post #59
300bps wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had the Lumia 928 for 3 weeks now. My three previous phones were iPhone 3G, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s. Part of me wishes that I would've gone Windows Phone sooner but the realistic part of me realizes that Windows Phone 7 was still nowhere near the quality of iOS. Windows Phone 8 is a completely different matter though. It's superior to my old iPhones in almost every way. Live tiles, SkyDrive integration (much bett…

At the risk of starting a device war, I'd agree with everything you've said, except that Android does a lot of those important things better still. Maps in particular- Google Maps is utterly unparalleled. But it's all down to the user- I have no requirement for Remote Desktop support, so that doesn't matter to me. I don't use OneNote or Office, and use Dropbox for file syncing.

However, the software elegance is the primary differentiating factor.

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Post by sp332 »

martingordon wrote: post #64
slantyyz wrote: post #51

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>> despite the OS For a normal user, how much does the OS matter in 2013? The OS playing ground is much more level today than it was in 2008. I'll be upgrading my iPhone 4 soon, and frankly, I'll be considering everything OS out there. I'll actually be choosing based on hardware more than OS, because all the web services that I use are supported by every operating system. I guess if you're really into apps, the ecosy…

The OS doesn't matter; the apps do (at least the few "important" ones). Most notably absent from WP is Instagram, which will be resolved when Hipstamatic launches for the OS.

Don't Fhotoroom http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/fhotoroom/acad1e... or Metrogram http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/metrogram/5dec28... let you share photos on Instagram already? Disclaimer: I've never used them.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by moheeb »

Maakuth wrote: post #4

Even with this kind of device, it is still very doubtful if Nokia is going to get any kind of success with Windows Phone. Their market share drop has been nothing short of catastrophic everywhere but in the US, where they never had significant market share. Even their feature phones have stopped selling as well as they used to. It will be interesting to see if they can get back on track with current strategy or with…

I think your memory is a bit off. Seems to me that nearly everyone in the US had a Nokia phone at one point.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by untog »

danmaz74 wrote: post #72
untog wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree completely, and in my opinion the stated reason not to go with Android - ie "being different" - is moot, when you consider that every phone maker can make windows phones too. They can, but they don't. And Nokia is indisputably the king of Windows Phone world, even though HTC have created some perfectly great devices. It's unlikely that Nokia could ever topple Samsung from the Android top spot.

You can be sure that they will, if WP will get traction thanks to Nokia.

There's a huge first-mover advantage in that, though. As I said- like with Samsung and Android. They're going to be incredibly difficult to shift now.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by [deleted] »

jcarney wrote: post #44
mmanfrin wrote: post #37

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It's not about the camera, it's about presenting Nokia as a producer of a premium phone, so that other versions of Nokia look better in comparison. No one cares about Windows Phone, but when Nokia makes headlines for 41-megapixels, the general populace that doesn't really get that they don't need 41-megapixels will nevertheless notice, and think 'wow, that is a lot, does my iPhone have that?'. 99.9% of people who wil…

>99.9% of people who will buy this phone will never have a need for 41 megapixels. But they'll buy it just the same. The tech does make normal pictures look better because of the oversampling. Not to mention optical image stabilization for reducing blur and shake in both image and video. http://i.imgur.com/fUe8rLC.png

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Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by meerita »

slantyyz wrote: post #54
mmanfrin wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about the camera, it's about presenting Nokia as a producer of a premium phone, so that other versions of Nokia look better in comparison. No one cares about Windows Phone, but when Nokia makes headlines for 41-megapixels, the general populace that doesn't really get that they don't need 41-megapixels will nevertheless notice, and think 'wow, that is a lot, does my iPhone have that?'. 99.9% of people who wil…

>> 99.9% of people who will buy this phone will never have a need for 41 megapixels. Nokia's really screwing up the messaging on this, as people are fixating on the megapixel count -- they are missing the forest for the trees. The best images you will get out of this phone will actually be the oversampled images, which have significantly fewer megapixels.

41 megapixels can't be nice on a crappy sensor and lenses system. 41 megapixels would be interesting on a real camera unless someone wants to print oversampled stuff.
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