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Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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What is the point of this comment? Are you mad that a collective of people found this worthy of the front page? That people live and work in SF?

I don't understand your outrage. There was a major incident and people are talking about it. There are millions of other websites you could be spending your time on. Why spend it here if you find the communities actions so objectionable?

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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post #113

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What is the point of this comment? Are you mad that a collective of people found this worthy of the front page? That people live and work in SF? I don't understand your outrage. There was a major incident and people are talking about it. There are millions of other websites you could be spending your time on. Why spend it here if you find the communities actions so objectionable?

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Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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High quality close up photo from https://path.com/p/1lwrZb : https://pathakacdn-a.akamaihd.net/photos2/f36a5729-6db7-40db...

I can't imagine the confusion that must have gone on when that happened, maybe it's shock or maybe people just underestimate the severity of their situation but correct me if I'm wrong... are there people in that photo actually carrying their bags off the plane? I can't quite comprehend that.

Apparently, it is fairly normal behavior; people activate a "leave plane" program. Having only one, they pick the one involving grabbing one's luggage before getting out of the plane.

(Sorry, can't find a reference. Most hits I get are either on emergency reaction/response by outside teams or on long-term emergency responses such as PTSD, community reactions, etc)

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Ever since Soyuz 11 depressurized after/while detaching from Salyut 1, everyone has used rescue suits during launch/landing. These rescue suits are not good for EVA as they don't provide the same mobility as EVA suits (better mobility while not in a vacuum, little to no mobility while in a vacuum), but they provide life support for limited amounts of time. Radiation is really something you don't worry about until eve…

Do you think (or are) people would be required to wear these suits on commercialized flights? As an aside, I wish I could be involved with anything dealing with space and exploration… it all just seems so fascinating and so much potential not only for economic development, but even to understand who we are in the context of what is or may be around us.

Yes, okay maybe not on holiday jaunts. Before you can board a helicopter to an offshore platform and have to don a survival suit. With the risk of the helicopter flight being so high it is not really something complained about.

I think we can draw a lot of parallels between helicopter flights to offshore platforms and a shuttle into space.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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(latest info at bottom of comment) ABC reports it was coming from Taipei, linked forum says Taipei. Video of aftermath. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dFtmSybpuw&feature=youtu.be . Redwood City FD responding. Unknown amount of passengers. SFO FD using foam on entire plane. FAA has now shut down operations at SFO due to "disabled plane" 3rd alarm called, "red" alarm called. Multiple reports that fuselage is in multi…

Audio from air traffic controller during crash http://l.bitcasa.com/BAhtheeZ

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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no. If everybody just rushed to the exit - it would bottle-necked and throughput would dramatically drop like it frequently happens in the known cases of club fires for example. Instead it dictates specific, much calmer, tempo: me/family alive and whole, neighbour alive and whole, bag with passport, lets move...

There's an interesting report on the A380 certification evacuation test[1] of ~870 people in 78 seconds. Granted, that was in a hanger with volunteers who knew it was going to come (but not when).

Serious fuselage damage might put enough exits out of commission to heavily bottleneck, though (although I think there's supposed to be some significant safety margin on those as well).

[1] https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/airbus-a380-evacu...

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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post #123

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What is the point of this comment? Are you mad that a collective of people found this worthy of the front page? That people live and work in SF? I don't understand your outrage. There was a major incident and people are talking about it. There are millions of other websites you could be spending your time on. Why spend it here if you find the communities actions so objectionable?

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You aren't forced by anyone to read anything here.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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post #55

ATC audio from the crash http://wandr.me/Audio/AAR214-KSFO-Crash.mp3

I know they train for it, but the coolheaded professionalism there is remarkable - tower, other planes, all of them.

That's why airlines like to get pilots with military experience. They are exposed to more crazy scenarios in training and work and generally keep a cool head better under stress.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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The passengers exiting with wheeled luggage are a much bigger problem.

Seriously. If you are ever posed with a situation where you must evacuate an aircraft, then GTFO and just leave your bags onboard. Do not do anything that could impede others' egress. You can get new stuff later, and the airline is likely to compensate you anyway (case in point, within days after US Air 1549 landed in the Hudson, the airline cut checks to the passengers to compensate for irretrievable belongings). Yo…

Who are we to judge the passengers of this flight for exiting the plane with luggage? We have no idea what was communicated to these passengers and what basis they are carrying the bags on. Maybe it's a bag containing important medication of some sort for another passenger?
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