Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO • Hacker News Board

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by _wp3r » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:03 PM UTC

bsg75 wrote: post #36

robbiet480 wrote: post #2

(latest info at bottom of comment) ABC reports it was coming from Taipei, linked forum says Taipei. Video of aftermath. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dFtmSybpuw&feature=youtu.be . Redwood City FD responding. Unknown amount of passengers. SFO FD using foam on entire plane. FAA has now shut down operations at SFO due to "disabled plane" 3rd alarm called, "red" alarm called. Multiple reports that fuselage is in multi…

Amazing changes in information [1] flow. HN becomes a better source than all major networks combined. [1] Information as contrasted to conjecture and dramatization.

KTVU is providing amazingly sensationalist coverage. I guess I do not watch enough video news to be use to seeing it. Just wild assumptions and implied details.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by Osmium » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:03 PM UTC

bryanh wrote: post #29

High quality close up photo from https://path.com/p/1lwrZb : https://pathakacdn-a.akamaihd.net/photos2/f36a5729-6db7-40db...

I can't imagine the confusion that must have gone on when that happened, maybe it's shock or maybe people just underestimate the severity of their situation but correct me if I'm wrong... are there people in that photo actually carrying their bags off the plane? I can't quite comprehend that.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by jcdavis » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:03 PM UTC

rdl wrote: post #35

ohazi wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Newest? First flight was in 1994.

777-200LR is pretty new though (2006?)

its a 777-200ER, not LR. Still a fairly new plane though

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:03 PM UTC

devb wrote: post #54

[deleted] wrote: post #39

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I think it's the best possible service he could be performing at that moment in time. Letting his friends/family know he's ok, confirming for others that it was not a mass fatality event. What should he have done in that scenario?

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Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by VladRussian2 » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:05 PM UTC

mittermayr wrote: post #50

Isn't it fascinating, how everyone is still exiting with their bags in hand? In all that chaos, I would probably just freak out and run. But apparently, a lot of them were picking up their bags before leaving the plane. Crazy. Glad so many got out though.

many of these people are foreigners, ie. visas, passport, cash/cards, etc... It is night and day difference between having your passport+visa available for immigration control and the alternative.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by hga » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:06 PM UTC

mikeash wrote: post #41

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What's he going to do? Trained professionals are taking care of the evacuation, and if he tries to "help", he will just get in the way. Sometimes there really is nothing you can do. This is not to be confused with a case where nobody is doing anything and everybody is just watching.

Exactly; unless you see a passenger struggling to get away from the plane, it's not at all clear what you could do early on without getting in the way or running an unreasonable risk.

Based on the early and very possibly incorrect or misleading info and pictures, if it were me I'd hang back and then volunteer wherever they set up a staging area for the less injured survivors.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by ohazi » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:07 PM UTC

rdl wrote: post #35

ohazi wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Newest? First flight was in 1994.

777-200LR is pretty new though (2006?)

The aircraft in question is a 777-200ER, which first flew in 1996.

The variants are usually relatively minor updates, though. Even the 747, which first flew in 1969, has a variant that can be considered "new" (-8, first flew in 2005). It's usually the early variants that validate the design.

Relative to other comparable aircraft, the 777 has a remarkably clean accident/incident record over an operational history spanning nearly 20 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777#Incidents_and_accide...

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:09 PM UTC

51Cards wrote: post #47

bryanh wrote: post #29

High quality close up photo from https://path.com/p/1lwrZb : https://pathakacdn-a.akamaihd.net/photos2/f36a5729-6db7-40db...

What a phenomenal photo and speed of information. People are still exiting with their bags in hand, incredible. THIS is one of those moments when you realize how social media and mobile devices have changed the world.

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Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by jka » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:10 PM UTC

sethbannon wrote: post #15

Someone who was on the plane says everyone seems OK: https://path.com/p/1lwrZb

Sincerely hope so - it may be a little early to tell though, he likely didn't have visibility of the full cabin and it's hard to tell what things are like inside.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:11 PM UTC

VladRussian2 wrote: post #65

mittermayr wrote: post #50

Isn't it fascinating, how everyone is still exiting with their bags in hand? In all that chaos, I would probably just freak out and run. But apparently, a lot of them were picking up their bags before leaving the plane. Crazy. Glad so many got out though.

many of these people are foreigners, ie. visas, passport, cash/cards, etc... It is night and day difference between having your passport+visa available for immigration control and the alternative.

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