Bart employee salaries CSV

Post by readmepastie » Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 3:38 PM UTC

readme wrote: post #54

netcan wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you look at these numbers? Where do you think minimum wage applies here?

Yes, I actually looked quite thoroughly. It applies in that the minimum wage is too low, so the bottom end of the workers have an extraordinarily unfair salary, in spite of the fact that they probably work 40+ hour weeks driving subway trains. I have made a histogram to illustrate this problem: http://pastie.org/8106373 You can see from the data that the highest paid worker makes at least 25x the amount of the lowest…

  Salary         Workers
  0-10000        180
  10000-20000    88
  20000-30000    97
  30000-40000    181
  40000-50000    167
  50000-60000    476
  60000-70000    633
  70000-80000    732
  80000-90000    322
  90000-100000   207
  100000-110000  99
  110000-120000  86
  120000-130000  56
  130000-140000  42
  140000-150000  23
  150000-160000  11
  160000-170000  7
  170000-180000  7
  180000-190000  4
  190000-200000  1
  200000-210000  3
  210000-220000  1
  220000-230000  1
  230000-240000  1
  240000-250000  1

Post by Amadou » Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 5:59 PM UTC

maxcan wrote: post #62

Amadou wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They are public servants who are holding the public hostage. I have to strongly disagree with that representation, you could just as well say that the "public" is holding their livelihoods hostage. Labor disputes are a characteristic of our economic system and are essentially morally neutral. The question that matters is, "Does including their names add any new insight to the debate?" I do not think it does.

Fair enough that it doesn't add to the debate. But, you cannot say the public is holding them hostage. Any one of them can quit their job and look for another at will. The "public" can hardly look for replacement labor.

Post by derleth » Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 6:17 PM UTC

casiotone wrote: post #53

derleth wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Unions are unions OF WORKERS. But there's still someone in charge. Who polices them? > A unions political power comes from the combined power of its members, who are citizens of the state and can thus be considered an accurate reflection of the citizens wishes. By this argument, we don't need anyone watching the government because it is elected by the people and so represents the will of the people.

> But there's still someone in charge. Who polices them? The union members vote on union matters. Do you know how unions work at all? Why are you talking as if you're an authority on unions when you don't even know this stuff? > By this argument, we don't need anyone watching the government because it is elected by the people and so represents the will of the people. Don't be ridiculous. The point is that a democrati…

Post by readme » Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 11:16 PM UTC

netcan wrote: post #59

readme wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I actually looked quite thoroughly. It applies in that the minimum wage is too low, so the bottom end of the workers have an extraordinarily unfair salary, in spite of the fact that they probably work 40+ hour weeks driving subway trains. I have made a histogram to illustrate this problem: http://pastie.org/8106373 You can see from the data that the highest paid worker makes at least 25x the amount of the lowest…

Sorry. I didn't mean to be rude. Some titles have PT in them. i assume this means part time. If there were a large number of full time workers earning around minimum wage, I would expect to see a lot of salaries around 20k p/a. Only ~1% of total compensations are between $17-$23k and they all have job titles that can be found above and bell that band. About half have PT in the title and I assume others are something…

Post by maxcan » Thu, Jul 04, 2013, 4:59 AM UTC

Amadou wrote: post #63

maxcan wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough that it doesn't add to the debate. But, you cannot say the public is holding them hostage. Any one of them can quit their job and look for another at will. The "public" can hardly look for replacement labor.

(1) The public can look for replacement labor, they are called scabs. Or they can outright fire the strikers. (2) The public can look for replacement transportation.