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Re: Never Trust Facebook

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that this isn't a bug. The user asked for the content to be deleted. For it to become public, they must have used a "delete" flag or something similar. The point is they didn't actually delete the content, rather just flag it as deleted.

Actually deleting content would be a very expensive operation at Facebook's scale. Flagging it as deleted is the most optimal way. What's troubling is that this content somehow got undeleted on its own. Not once, but twice.

Permanently deleting flagged data from all sites on monthly timescales seems like it ought to be possible.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

#13
Perhaps the way to delete the information in the account is to replace the status posts, comments, photos with junk. Words and sentences that don't mean anything; photos that are noise. Perhaps there's a way to do that in an automated fashion. I'd use that.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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Clearly they have a bug, but as far as actually deleting your data; I am willing to be it'll never be deleted.

They couldn't possibly manage the data if you could remove pieces, since everything on facebook is intertwined (likes, comments, shares, etc).

aka this doesn't surprise me.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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post #14

Clearly they have a bug, but as far as actually deleting your data; I am willing to be it'll never be deleted. They couldn't possibly manage the data if you could remove pieces, since everything on facebook is intertwined (likes, comments, shares, etc). aka this doesn't surprise me.

I spent a fairly large amount of time trying to completely delete my account - it involved emails, 'hidden' links, and multiple confirmation boxes using a nonstandard UI for facebook.

A few days ago I made a brand new account (but using the same email as before) and was greeted with the suggestion to add ALL of my old friends right back again.

Clearly nothing has been deleted, and I now feel confirmed that it never, ever will be.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

#17
I'll give you a little advice that's been working wonderfully for me so far - don't ever post something that is politically/ethnically/whatever questionable and you'll be fine. Even better than that, it'll play in your favour.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

#18
post #5

I understand this is not good. I do. But I'm surprised people think entity like Facebook, Google and any other web businesses delete records permanently. It's not worth it on so many level: - People that actually want to retrieve their stuff, - It's harder to implement a full delete than it is to add a flag, - They would have to give up on data-mining assets. I don't endorse, but I understand.

Flagging items as deleted as opposed to actually deleting them is one thing. Of course it's not ideal for someone who wants to revoke facbook's access to their data, but there is more or less no difference from a user perspective. If I understand correctly, what's going on here is that after the posts and other content were flagged as deleted, they were somehow unflagged and became fully visible again. That's different, and really not okay at all.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that this isn't a bug. The user asked for the content to be deleted. For it to become public, they must have used a "delete" flag or something similar. The point is they didn't actually delete the content, rather just flag it as deleted.

Actually deleting content would be a very expensive operation at Facebook's scale. Flagging it as deleted is the most optimal way. What's troubling is that this content somehow got undeleted on its own. Not once, but twice.

Every operation at Facebook scale is expensive. But they have the resources. They don't do something because they don't want to, not because manipulating their data is hard. They do complicated things to their data all the time.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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post #17

I'll give you a little advice that's been working wonderfully for me so far - don't ever post something that is politically/ethnically/whatever questionable and you'll be fine. Even better than that, it'll play in your favour.

You probably have one of the most bland profiles out there.

(This may be a good thing.)

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