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Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

#101
Has anyone else found between 2 and 3 with PHP files that when you use ctrl+left/right it doesn't work properly when doing things like functions etc?

Every other language is fine though.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

Excellent points.

It would also be nice if my $70 license included free upgrades to future versions. There's just not enough new for me to spend $70 every year for a slightly better text editor. I'll stick with whatever version it is that I have now.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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post #99
post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

That makes me an editor whore. Emacs is old, complex and beautifully configurable. Vim is elegant and fast until you see Vimscript. Sublime is modern and great of out-of-the-box, but developed by a very smart guy that won't talk to his users on the forums).

Isn't Vim moving to Python as a replacement for vimscript? That would appear to solve a lot of the complaints related to Vim's extensibility.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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post #95

Sublime is a great product with shitty community and plugins, unfortunately. It could be so great but there is no feedback, no word from Jon regarding the communities requests.

I've had several back and forths with him over new features... He responds to twitter and email quite promptly.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

On the other hand, TextMate 2 is under active development: https://github.com/textmate/textmate/commits/master

It's nearly a year behind schedule.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

Out of curiosity, are there any notable examples of products/projects which have failed upon having their bus factor checked?

Off the top of my head, I was thinking ReiserFS [0] which seemed lose ground quickly after Reiser's murder charge and subsequent conviction [1].

0: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReiserFS

1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser#Trial_and_verdict

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

I don't think that's fair. As others have said, ST2 is a great editor and will be for a while.

I'm probably an aberration, but I don't customize my text editors beyond the basics, and I definitely don't write plugins for them. It would probably make me a better developer, but I'm just not motivated to do that.

You didn't mention what you do recommend to peers?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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post #70
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Put this in your user key bindings and then you can auto-indent with cmd+shift+g: { "keys": ["command+shift+g"], "command": "reindent", "args": {"single_line": false}}

Ah, lovely, thanks! Note, just replace "command" with "ctrl" for Windows

I think you can use 'super' for cross platform compatibility.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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post #38
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

from http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/sublime-text-3-beta "When 3.0 is released, upgrades will be available for $30, or $15 for users who have purchased recently. The cut off date for the reduced upgrade price will be based on the actual date of the 3.0 release."

Thanks, it's worth full price - but I'm finding more and more upgrades that are offering very little concession to users that have supported them from the start.

I thought it was a tad expensive when I purchased last year, but another $30 on top doesn't appeal to me.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

If everyone involved with Sublime disappeared tomorrow, Sublime would still work -- and likely continue to be usable for at least a few years. I don't understand what the concern is here. As you say, developers marry their editors. I certainly would be frustrated if Sublime were abandoned tomorrow, but I'd still rather use it today over any other editor.

Like we aren't used to this too. Textmate and many other good editors were left eating dust and no one died. If Sublime Text dies I'm sure another will take its place.
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