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Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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We use RDP + TS gateway over VPN which you have to auth your remote key before you can connect. That's 4 factor :)

How many times do you enter in the same credentials throughout the logging process?

There are four entirely different credentials.

Pain to remember, but it's definitely secure.

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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post #51

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How many times do you enter in the same credentials throughout the logging process?

There are four entirely different credentials. Pain to remember, but it's definitely secure.

Doesn't one key-logger on the client computer reveal all of the passwords?

That's one-factor authentication.

Two-factor means you need two things, not just the passwords, but for instance also a device.

You mentioned a remote key, so yes, it sounds like you have two-factor. But not four.

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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Not X11, any app can see or manipulate any other apps screen buffer. It is one reason Wayland is nice. If your system has MAC you can restrict its file access, but in general you have library support for this stuff built in. It is also why in most cases it is a PITA to stream 3d rendered screens. Opengl / directX don't provide easy ways like X11 to look at a completed framebuffer and store / broadcast it.

Wayland doesn't provide meaningful security for that case. It's true that there's no protocol support for arbitrary buffer access, but if you're running as the same user (as is the case here) it's comparatively trivial to dup the drm file descriptor and remap the buffers. You may need to be able to guess (or just probe for) the handles though, I'm not sure.

Wayland alone might not, but MAC can limit access to file descriptors

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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Am I the only one who prefers regular gchat to google hangouts? It's super difficult to figure out who on my contact list is online or not. I also mistake old msgs as new ones because of the lack of time-stamps. Maybe I'm missing a check-box or something that could fix all this but I gave up and switched back to gchat almost immediately.

I complained about this for a while, but then I saw someone use Hangouts on mobile. I suddenly realized why Google designed it this way. Of course the designers noticed that it was hard to determine who was offline and who was online. In fact, that's the whole point. Google is incrementally eliminating the distinction between the online and offline world. Pretty soon, the concept of offline won't exist anymore -- eve…

In fact, they will be integrating SMS "soon": http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/16/google-hangouts-sms-integ...

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

#56
Slightly off topic, but does anyone else experience poor audio echo in Hangout video conferences?

At work we would kill to replace Skype with Hangouts, but with the same computers and the same microphones, everyone in Hangouts constantly hears themselves, while Skype reduces hearing yourself to a very rare event.

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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Slightly off topic, but does anyone else experience poor audio echo in Hangout video conferences? At work we would kill to replace Skype with Hangouts, but with the same computers and the same microphones, everyone in Hangouts constantly hears themselves, while Skype reduces hearing yourself to a very rare event.

I've only ever had this issue when someone on the hangout uses speakers instead of headphones and forgets to mute.

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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Am I the only one who prefers regular gchat to google hangouts? It's super difficult to figure out who on my contact list is online or not. I also mistake old msgs as new ones because of the lack of time-stamps. Maybe I'm missing a check-box or something that could fix all this but I gave up and switched back to gchat almost immediately.

I complained about this for a while, but then I saw someone use Hangouts on mobile. I suddenly realized why Google designed it this way. Of course the designers noticed that it was hard to determine who was offline and who was online. In fact, that's the whole point. Google is incrementally eliminating the distinction between the online and offline world. Pretty soon, the concept of offline won't exist anymore -- eve…

That seems like a good idea but I only use gchat on my PC, for my phone it's text messages. I don't like it when someone assumes that I'm on my PC and starts to have a conversation with me as when I'm on the go I'm not able to have a serious chat. At least with txt msgs both parties know that you may not respond in time and that you may be brief with your responses.

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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post #20

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There is a green bar below the user's picture when they're online.

Just switched back to check this out. I see the green bar under only one of my friends but the rest that are online or away don't have this. Do they also have to have hangouts enabled for me to see that? Also, I understand that they are trying to make things minimal and look cool but it's not something that's very intuitive or noticeable. I thought it might have meant that I have a chat window open with that person.

That's only online at a PC, I believe. If folks are on a phone, they won't have a green bar.

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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post #35

And Google continues killing off niche application vendors... WalMart of the Internet.

Screen sharing is a Skype feature. If having a broadly available free tool with deep-pocketed corporate support was going to kill off that "niche", then it's surely been dead for years already. This is just Google achieving feature parity with the existing players. I mean, I'm as much a cynic as anyone, but I swear that these days it seems like Google can't catch a break on this site.

Skype has screen share but the quality pales in comparison to RDP/Teamviewer
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