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A related question to HN community: Is there anyway to opt out of Wikipedia? Say, somebody created a profile page for me without asking for my permission. Is there anyway to delete my page?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living...
Klout: "To opt out of Klout, please verify the you are the owner ... Note that we request only the bare minimum information provided by Twitter or Facebook for authentication." Facebook: "Klout Opt-Out would like to access your public profile and friend list. " I've never done Facebook OAuth. This isn't really the bare minimum is it?
It is. From https://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/login/public-... : "When a user logs into your app and you request no additional permissions, the app will have access to only the user's public profile and friend list."
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Knowing "a good plumber" is no longer knowing a genuinely skilled plumber. It's knowing a person you have an affection towards, one that has been marketed well to you. Perhaps I am naïve but I believe that in the past people were more discerning about the true skill of an individual and less clouded by the appeal of the individual.
You have reduced the discussion to what, subjectively, makes a good plumber. I will try to bring this back to my original point - One that is not necessarily a good marketeer may be far more suitable for the job, yet good marketeers but unskilled plumbers (to say unsuitable for the skilled job at hand) seem to be "successful" in terms of success and profit in their field.
So when you go into this with the expectation that success/popularity should be directly related to skill, you are going to naturally remember the many examples of when bad people somehow have success. And so you conclude: success is not correlated enough to popularity, or else Person XYZ would not be famous/rich.
But let's say I, on the other hand, think there's a strong correlation between success and skill...and I can think of lots of successful people who also happen to be skillful...but I suffer from the same confirmation bias as you do.
So who's right here? I don't know, but I'm just pointing out that your assertion may not fit the actual facts (if we could ever quantify it).
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Given that I know very little about Krout, perhaps you could explain why you participated in the first place. I don't wish to sound rude; I'm genuinely interested in what exactly you did, and why you thought it was worth doing. Basically, can you expand on: " A vaguely plausible "score" that you can use to justify your "investment" in tweeting all day long. " Thanks
I didn't participate. Klout hoover up public information. Are you on Twitter or Facebook? Congratulations! You are a Klout user by default! They have a score for you which they can then sell on. Sme with Kred. You don't sign up - they just assume passive consent.
No, I am not going to opt out. 1. A system in which I personally have to contact every scammer that had the same idea is not a system I wish to accept and play along with. 2. By going to their site and authenticating, I have proven to them that I am a) an active user and b) there is a chance they may hold some power over me by collecting my data. While they may make a "promise" not to store my data, they can toss the…
I've already replied to nochuck13's comment, but I'll add it here as well. For #3, access to your public profile AND friend list really is the minimum level of access you can ask from the Facebook API. See https://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/login/public-... .
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Given that I know very little about Krout, perhaps you could explain why you participated in the first place. I don't wish to sound rude; I'm genuinely interested in what exactly you did, and why you thought it was worth doing. Basically, can you expand on: " A vaguely plausible "score" that you can use to justify your "investment" in tweeting all day long. " Thanks
I didn't participate. Klout hoover up public information. Are you on Twitter or Facebook? Congratulations! You are a Klout user by default! They have a score for you which they can then sell on. Sme with Kred. You don't sign up - they just assume passive consent.
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You're new to HN, so I'll let you in on something: while sometimes the message is more important than the messenger, many times it's not. Who says something is just as important. If that we're not the case, HN would remove the usernames as well. There is a reason people provide context for what they say by sharing their experience. And just like in real life, taking legal advice from IANAL isn't something you should…
> If that we're not the case, HN would remove the usernames as well. That doesn't follow. And, funnily enough, HN does deemphasise the author by showing the name in small grey text. There are plenty of reasons to attribute posts: the conventional expectation that one can be identified as the author of one's work, for one; the tendency of people to be more civil, for another. > You're new to HN, so I'll let you in on…
I wasn't being patronising. I was trying to make a point (though, I'll admit, it wasn't obvious). I admit that attempt was clumsy. Sorry for making you feel like you were being patronized. My intent was 100% honest though.
I was trying to show what could happen if association was removed. If context was removed. If I don't know who you are, how can I quantify your advice. After all, I'm much more inclined to appreciate people's opinions on the state of HN year over year if they've been participating longer than that.
> the conventional expectation that one can be identified as the author of one's work, for one; the tendency of people to be more civil, for another.
And context. Advice is cheap. Everyone can offer advice. And context helps us rate that advice. Just because something sounds good doesn't mean it should be followed, or even listened to.
And it's fairly easy to make a mistake in authoring what you say to the point that people misunderstand you, even if it's not what you meant.
I hadn't even realised that they had a profile on me even though I've never participated in their site. I've now opted out, but I suspect doing so has fattened the profiles of everyone I follow as verifying Twitter id to opt-out meant granting access to who I follow for a brief moment.
A related question to HN community: Is there anyway to opt out of Wikipedia? Say, somebody created a profile page for me without asking for my permission. Is there anyway to delete my page?
In general, anyone can edit or delete Wikipedia pages. If you are a "notable person" then you can expect your edits to be reverted, however; on the other hand, if you are not very notable, a page about you would probably not survive very long anyway.