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I am sure you meant well but I found your write-up somewhat scattered and lacking a logical conclusion supported by prior points. This is easy to do if one is writing with passion. I've done it too. If your point is that we will ultimately be protected by the Supreme Court, I think you are wrong. This is the same Supreme Court that enabled Obamacare, a law that allows the Federal Government to force every american to…
> I am sure you meant well but I found your write-up somewhat scattered and lacking a logical conclusion supported by prior points. This is easy to do if one is writing with passion. I've done it too. IANAL! But my 'point' is that there is a process of bringing cases, claims of unconstitutionality, to the SCOTUS and now that process has started. There will be the issue of a plaintiff having 'standing' to bring the ca…
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> One more point was, one of his tear jerk cases said that due to her existing bad health she couldn't get insurance. Nonsense: All she had to do was move to a state with 'community rating'. That's actually one of the points Justice Ginsburg addressed in her concurring/dissenting opinion about the Obamacare case. In the long term Obamacare systems have failed in individual states that have tried to impose it, because…
You are trying to take Obamacare seriously. Sure, it's a serious issue, and no doubt in the 2000 pages of the bill and the 10s of thousands of pages of 'regulations' there is some good thinking. But my overwhelming impression is that Obamacare was, in the end, poorly designed. Maybe enough writers of 'regulations' can make it helpful, but I doubt it. I just believe that the whole thing was politics, not healthcare. O…
That's the same thing they did for military Tricare health care (which is as socialist as they come, by the way :P). Instead of replacing Tricare with the national plan they simply declare that Tricare is a national plan that complies with the requirements for PPACA.
I wouldn't be surprised if Obamacare is altered in the future but I would be surprised if it's repealed entirely, especially once people start to realize how many people have nothing else to rely on.
And then in about 10-20 years or so we'll have people like today, screaming and protesting "KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY OBAMACARE" in completely unironic fashion, just as they do with Medicare today.
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They probably didn't say "mushroom cloud"
Bush did ,that's the point.
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In theory, the supreme court should see through "loop holes" and interpret the meaning of the constitution, not just the words.
That's their job and why we try to put smart people there.
The job of lawyers is to find loopholes. Since the entire scotus is composed of lawyers we more strongly risk having a court that chooses to sympathize and reward cleverness in finding loopholes that are technically correct according to the letter of the law. For example, myriad genetics.
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#195I suggest that, on the question prominent in this thread, "what should the US do about terrorism and the claimed excesses of the NSA", there is now an answer that is unavoidable, rock solid, quite clear, maybe crystal clear, even if it does not address all concerns. Here in logical steps is the unavoidable answer: (1) Due to whatever in history before 1776, the US founding fathers gave us the Constitution. Soon they…
You seem to have great esteem for how the Supreme Court might rule on the 4th Amendment here, in light of how the court has narrowed the law in regards to the amendment in the past few decades. In fact, they've already ruled that challengers to the 2011 FISA act have no grounding to sue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clapper_v._Amnesty_Internationa...
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This language ("aiding enemies of the US") is going to be specifically used to justify calling leakers "treasonous". The words are directly lifted from Article III of the constitution, part of which outlines what it means to commit treason. There are certainly holes in the constitution, which over time politician and bureaucrats always find a way to "hack" their way into securing more powers for themselves, such as t…
In theory, the supreme court should see through "loop holes" and interpret the meaning of the constitution, not just the words.
(Not that I'm complaining, I'm fine with the court doing this, but it would be nice if it were an enumerated power)
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You do what you can while respecting freedom and privacy, and accept that every once in a while terror attacks may happen. You're giving us a false choice.
Yet politicians the world over, in the aftermath of terrorist attacks are expected to act tough. I have never heard a shit happens lets move on speech.
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Before reading Fromm, I never thought about the difference between having and being; but once seen it can hardly be unseen. Like when he talks about idolatry or God, with a point and seriousness and as atheist, or the distinction between necrophilia and love of life -- before Fromm necrophilia was something out of gross jokes to, not anything I could seriously ponder, but now I'm thinking we're just so deep into all…
Wow! Some of that may also be in the last half of 'The Art of Loving', but what you wrote is new to me. You are right -- just from what you quoted, he had something perceptive and important to say. And on India, he's right: I refuse to pay attention to India, and for essentially just the reason he said.
At the risk of overdoing it (even more), one last quote I consider a true pearl because it sums up so much, from http://www.marxists.org/archive/fromm/works/1961/man/ :
The whole concept of alienation found its first expression in Western thought in the Old Testament concept of idolatry. The essence of what the prophets call "idolatry" is not that man worships many gods instead of only one. It is that the idols are the work of man's own hands -- they are things, and man bows down and worships things; worships that which he has created himself.
In doing so he transforms himself into a thing. He transfers to the things of his creation the attributes of his own life, and instead of experiencing himself as the creating person, he is in touch with himself only by the worship of the idol. He has become estranged from his own life forces, from the wealth of his own potentialties, and is in touch with himself only in the indirect way of submission to life frozen in the idols. The deadness and emptiness of the idol is expressed in the Old Testament: "Eyes they have and they do not see, ears they have and they do not hear," etc.
The more man transfers his own powers to the idols, the poorer he himself becomes, and the more dependent on the idols, so that they permit him to redeem a small part of what was originally his. The idols can be a godlike figure, the state, the church, a person, possessions. Idolatry changes its objects; it is by no means to be found only in those forms in which the idol has a socalled religious meaning.
Idolatry is always the worship of something into which man has put his own creative powers, and to which he now submits, instead of experiencing himself in his creative act.
Among the many forms of alienation, the most frequent one is alienation in language. If I express a feeling with a word, let us say, if I say "I love you," the word is meant to be an indication of the reality which exists within myself, the power of my loving. The word "love" is meant to be a symbol of the fact love, but as soon as it is spoken it tends to assume a life of its own, it becomes a reality. I am under the illusion that the saying of the word is the equivalent of the experience, and soon I say the word and feel nothing, except the thought of love which the word expresses.
The alienation of language shows the whole complexity of alienation. Language is one of the most precious human achievements; to avoid alienation by not speaking would be foolish -- yet one must be always aware of the danger of the spoken word, that it threatens to substitute itself for the living experience. The same holds true for all other achievements of man; ideas, art, any kind of man-made objects. They are man's creations; they are valuable aids for life, yet each one of them is also a trap, a temptation to confuse life with things, experience with artifacts, feeling with surrender and submission.
To me Erich Fromm's writings are like a holograms, they all seem to contain a rough version of the whole ^^
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Bush did ,that's the point.
The Germans, going into WWII, did not. The term was coined later, and the devices it's meant nowadays to imply were developed later. This is, of course, an accident of history and I wasn't making a deep point, just having some fun, but I do think you missed my point which was that threats of a mushroom cloud in particular would be a difference not a similarity between the two situations.
The daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador pretending she's a nurse and that Saddams's soldiers are throwing newborns on the floor just because they can, Powell with his slides telling the UN some trailers could be weapons laboratories, and that Saddam must be attacked immediately, it's all the same to me... it's not really about nuclear weapons, whatever works is used.