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I wish there was a moderate MRA group, that wasn't full of hateful idiots.
Go to Japan. Gender roles are ingrained into the culture and women are naturally feminine. A lot of MRA groups seem to fight the hate with more hate... maybe these guys just need a change of scenery.
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It's a good job the "pulling out your dick and forcibly placing the woman's hand on it" advice comes in the section of things you do after you're hundreds of moves down the line and you're alone in an intimate setting with a girl, after a number of dates then. The counter-article writer doesn't make clear that he's picked quotes from all over the guide, they aren't all "the first thing you should do" quotes
”5) Get CLOSE to her, damn it! To quote Rob Judge, “Personal space is for pussies.” I already told you that the most successful seducers are those who can’t keep their hands off of women. Well you’re not gonna be able to do that if you aren’t in close! ” “All the greatest seducers in history could not keep their hands off of women. They aggressively escalated physically with every woman they were flirting with. They…
Incidentally, not everyone here who disagrees with you is a cismale.
Please save the patronizing condescension for your tumblr blog.
When people hit on me, and/or won't leave me alone, I'm perfectly capable of telling them to piss off if I'm not interested. This goes for a gay guy, straight guy, straight girl, gay girl--whatever.
META: I know it's wrong to talk about flagging, but I think it's also important for the community for people to try to bring up good reasons to flag posts. I read the linked article, I skimmed many of these comments, and hell if I got anything useful at all from them. Dating standards and decisions about misogyny and important topics, but they're also highly subjective. We HN'ers could argue until the cows come home…
Provided HN is going to remove categories of posts, I've always advocated banning gender discussion from HN. It's just not the forum for it, and it's the same circle of discussion you see on r/politics. HN is a "cultivated" free speech zone, which is another way to say it's an arbitrarily censored forum where some legitimately objectionable material is filtered away, some good material is lost through false positives…
But how do you know the person you're talking to is male? Or white? The person might be womansplaining instead of mansplaining for all you know.
Are you assuming they must be white and/or male because they disagree with you?
If so, is this because you consider opinions held by people of a certain skin color or biological sex to be innately inferior to others?
Something to think about.
Women are sensitive, fragile, inferior creatures who require constant, vigilant protection from honorable men. If it becomes necessary to take a few quotes out of context in our noble quest to protect the fairer sex, so be it. Kudos to Kickstarter for adhering to feminist principles. > The thing that the commenters on social media are leaving out is that the advice was taken from a section in the guide offering advic…
What I dislike most about these discussions is that it invariably attracts ideologues of all stripes, of which you appear to be one. > " Women are sensitive, fragile, inferior creatures who require constant, vigilant protection from honorable men. > Kudos to Kickstarter for adhering to feminist principles. " You're attacking a straw man with ad-hominems. More importantly, you're glossing over the fact that women legi…
Domestic violence rates have been for years known to be roughly 50/50 between the sexes. Some studies have even found that women are slightly more likely than men to initiate violence.
Of course, only women get societal support and access to domestic violence shelters. My father was warned by the police that if he ever called them when my mother was beating him, the police would be forced to arrest him instead (due to the domestic violence laws pushed through by feminists in the VAWA).
Women are sensitive, fragile, inferior creatures who require constant, vigilant protection from honorable men. If it becomes necessary to take a few quotes out of context in our noble quest to protect the fairer sex, so be it. Kudos to Kickstarter for adhering to feminist principles. > The thing that the commenters on social media are leaving out is that the advice was taken from a section in the guide offering advic…
Women have been the target of systematic oppression for millenia, of which sexual violence has been a primary tool. Are you open to the possibility that that might not be over quite yet? That that might actually be deserving of a little sensitivity?
Throughout all of history, it's men that have been forced to fight and die in wars without any choice in the matter. There's a lot of raping of males that goes on in Africa during their various wars, but any coverage will inevitably focus on women instead (due to funding issues--no one cares about a male rape victim).
Life is hard for everyone, male and female.
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>You do not get to treat a group of people as property for thousands of years Ignoring the fact that your scenario is absurd hyperbole, and men had things just as shit as women did, the you in question wasn't involved. Nobody in this discussion ever owned a woman. Pretending they committed some horrible crime to justify your prejudice is pathetic.
Ignoring the fact that the status of women as property was a literal and legal fact for thousands of years... I don't subscribe to such a convenient ethics, I'm afraid. The enormous power I derive from the society I live in I owe, in good part, to racial slavery, to the genocide of the people who lived where I live now, and, yes, to the systematic oppression of women, all in the name of the very nation I now consider…
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Women are, funnily enough, female members of the species homo sapiens and there is a lot of scientific evidence on what they find attractive in a potential mate.
Show me this evidence. If that is really your attitude towards women then it's no wonder you feel the need to read a book like this. Try a little respect for your fellow people, you'll have much more fulfilling experiences with women if you stop believing what science tells you and actually take an interest in the people around you
You can't be serious.
Someone on Hacker News advocating not to believe in science? Really?
I guess to understand this one has to consider that Kickstarter is based in puritan America?
I'm not sure where you get that from. Puritans have never been big on the rights of women.
I'll probably get down voted for this, but reading through what was written, and based on the fact woman LOVE the book, 50 shades of grey. I'm kind of lost as to why on one side everyones offended, and on the other side its what they desire... Yet get offended.
What's most baffling is that...
With feminists: It's ok if women want sex, but not ok for men to want sex.
With fundamentalist conservatives: It's ok if men want sex, but not ok for women to want sex.
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Ummmm... wut? I'm not using a Disney film as an example of a good portrayal of women, and neither is the author of the seduction book. The implication is that the Disney movie, made and marketed for children, has a song called "Kiss the girl" which is about as rape-y as the advice in the seduction manual. Which is to say not at all.
The whole premise of The Little Mermaid is paternalistic and problematic.
Guess you better go tell a bunch of little girls that they aren't allowed to like whatever their favorite female Disney protagonist happens to be.